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Machida wants GSP

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#1 · (Edited)
Machida revealed that he may be back in a training routine in ten days, first having to heal up a knee injury. “I will be ready to re-start in ten days to fight in December, who knows?” he says, giving no clue on who his next opponent will be.

However like his countryman and friend Anderson Silva, he has professed an interest in fighting the welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre in a superfight. “It would be an interesting karate duel but I don't know at what weight we would do it. If it is at 185lbs, I will go for it,” says the former light-heavyweight champ.
I can easily see Machida frustrating GSP and knocking him out. Can't really see GSP trying to take Machida since Machida's TDD is on point.

source http://www.fightersonlymag.com/content/news/17211-now-machida-wants-to-fight-gsp-as-well
 
#44 ·
People will never agree on the whole moving up thing. Some people hate on GSP for not moving up but others refer to guys like BJ Penn and Randy Couture's mixed results as a way to deny the credibility of there legacies. Seems like you can't be great if you don't move up and fight the best but you can't be great if you do and lose? Hell BJ and Randy moved up and won UFC gold and that wasn't enough in some people's minds to offset there losses. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

I will say that people need to quit acting like this is completely absurd especially when I think many of the same people would love to see Silva/GSP.





One if these guys isn't to big for GSP but the thought of the other fighting him is absurd?
(Personally I think they are both to big but I don't think fighting Machida is any more absurd than Anderson.
 
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#45 ·
People will never agree on the whole moving up thing. Some people hate on GSP for not moving up but others refer to guys like BJ Penn and Randy Couture's mixed results as a way to deny the credibility of there legacies. Seems like you can't be great if you don't move up and fight the best but you can't be great if you do and lose? Hell BJ and Randy moved up and won UFC gold and that wasn't enough in some people's minds to offset there losses. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

GSP is and will always be the most dominant WW ever until a guy similar to JJ comes in (new breed).

I hate it when people want a great fighter to move up, and when they do (and lose) they moan about how their stock went down, not the same fighter, etc etc.

I give all the credit in the world to BJ for facing Machida back in the day, it was a very close fight :thumbsup:
 
#46 ·
As irrelevent as this fight would be, Machida is an even worse match-up for GSP than Anderson would be. Lets just throw size advantage out the window at this point. Machida as the speed to match GSP, has knock out power, has the strength advantage, and has the TDD.

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#47 ·
Here's a simple way to think of the whole Anderson Silva Vs GSP situation.

Anderson Silva = #1
George St. Pierre = #2

If GSP ever wants to become #1, he has to take the fight. If he loses, he's still #2. If he wins, he becomes the greatest of all time. For GSP, there is no losing position for his legacy.
 
#48 ·
That makes no sense, the actual logic is that GSP winning would mean he is #1 but since he is significantly smaller GSP losing doesn't necessarily mean Silva is the better fighter.
 
#49 ·
Where did I say any different.

RIGHT NOW the ranks are Silva #1, GSP #2. GSP will NEVER be the best without the fight taking place. If Silva wins, he just increases the gap. If GSP wins, he becomes the best of all time. What possible reason does he have for not taking the fight? If he loses he stays in the exact same position he is in now.
 
#61 ·
He moved up a weight class and beat the dominant champ. If we compare BJ to GSP then yes Anderson Silva is the equivalent of Matt Hughes.


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#62 ·
Yeah, but if you compair Anderson to Hughes things are WAAAAY different.

The fact is, the second best fighter of all time on a 9 fight streak Vs the best fighter of all time on a 15 fight streak (or more...depending on pre-ufc silva) isn't exactly the same as BJ and Hughes.

GSP Vs Anderson might be the biggest fight that could ever happen in the UFC and would be the biggest fight to date by far.
 
#63 ·
Just as the bw and flyweight divisions struggle for credibility to many fans the lw and ww divisions did then. At the time of hughes penn only the lhw and hw divisions had really been embraced by fans. The marketability of a fight shouldn't impact a fighters status in all time rankings or we may as well quit debating it an crown Lesnar the GOAT.


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#69 ·
I think size an strength really become an important aspect when you look at the wrestling. For that reason I think GSP would struggle and likely fail.


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#70 ·
I think the style alone might get to GSP with guys like Anderson and Machida. He likes to jab his way in, so to start he has to get past their range, use his own striking, and then go for the takedown. Sonnen has more success because he can rush you and get you there but GSP is more intelligent with it. I think he'd catch some crazy strike and get KOTN'd.
 
#71 ·
Machida would be too big for GSP, just like I think Anderson would be and would easily beat him.

This comment though, while I don't really like Machida talking about anyone not at 205 just gives me more and more belief that he's headed to 185 soon.
 
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