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JDS Reminds Everyone, Including Jon Jones, Who is the “Baddest Man on the planet."

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JDS Reminds Everyone, Including Jon Jones, Who is the “Baddest Man on the planet."


Junior dos Santos Reminds Everyone, Including Jon Jones, Who is the “Baddest Man on the Planet”

Junior dos Santos is not a fighter that backs down from challenges, and any fighter willing to step into the heavyweight division will find that out very quickly.

Through nine fights in the UFC, dos Santos has nine victories, with seven of those coming by way of knockout or TKO. In the two decisions he’s had, dos Santos has battered those opponents into a bloody pulp, leaving no doubt who was the victor when the final bell sounded.

Despite the path of destruction that dos Santos has left in his wake, he’s rarely mentioned in the mythical “pound-for-pound” discussion, but there’s one fight out there that could change all that… if it ever happens.

UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones has teased for months about potentially moving up to heavyweight, and stated recently he might even do so by the “end of 2013.” If that happens, Jones would then enter the peripheral vision of UFC heavyweight champion Junior dos Santos, and that might be just the challenge he’s been looking for.

“People like to imagine a lot of things. Jon Jones is an amazing fighter. He’s really good, he’s so confident, and I like him a lot. He’s very nice with me; I’m nice with him,” dos Santos said about Jones recently.

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Handshakes and smiles aside, dos Santos has no problem with Jones, but if he decides to take a trip into the heavyweight division, then the Brazilian will happily defend his turf. Then dos Santos will remind Jones just who really is the “baddest man on the planet.”

“I’ve got the heavyweight belt. There is just one baddest man on the planet, and I think I am this guy now. If he moves up to the heavyweight division, I would think about that fight,” said dos Santos.

“If they put him in front of me to challenge me, we’re going to fight. I will give my best.”

The next time the heavyweight champion will compete is at UFC 155 in a rematch against Cain Velasquez, the man he defeated to win the title. Following that, dos Santos will most likely come face-to-face with former Strikeforce champion Alistair Overeem.

But if dos Santos can do to those two opponents what he’s already done in his last nine fights in the UFC, a superfight with Jon Jones might be just the kind of match-up the heavyweight champion would get excited about, and the timing would likely line up perfectly at the end of 2013.
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At the moment, JDS' take down defense is just like how Machida's TDD was hyped up before he fought Jon Jones, or an elite level wrestler who's game plan was to take him down. (Note, Rashad Evans wasn't committed to taking the fight to the ground).

JDS' TDD still hasn't really been tested from a truly elite level wrestler, just like Machidas hadn't before he fought Jon.

Jon Jones scooped up Machida like he was a toy and dumped him onto his ass. That's the calibre of wrestler Jon Jones is. Dos Santos isn't on this kids level. Bulked up, Jon would toss Junior to the floor and brutalise him with elbows.
 
#11 ·
So you are saying JDS's TDD hasn't been tested...although he hasn't really had much trouble defending or getting right back up.

But then somehow you seem to "know" that Jones...a 205er....who fights 185ers would ragdoll JDS?

Didn't Jones struggle to get Rampage down early in the fight before Page faded?

JDS would land 1 big uppercut and it would be over...at least I think.

If Bones really is this beastly and is able to truly toss the undisputed HW Champ around....then it is really a shame he is wasting his time fighting guys who failed in 185 title fights..
 
#21 ·
I said his TDD hasn't been tested against a truly elite level wrestler who has fully committed to take downs and a game plan. Just like Machida, before he ran into Jones. Remember? Machida had the best TDD ever according to the majority of fans. That opinion seemed to change in a heart beat after Jones tossed him to the ground like a dogs chew toy and murdered him with elbows.

Jones isn't wasting any thing. He's going to go down in history as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter to ever exist. Love him, hate him, what ever, it doesn't matter. The kid is just too freakishly talented. After he's dried out the LHW division of every contender available, he'll then set his sights on HW and conquer that division too.

Also your pop at Vitor Belfort was unnecessary really. A failed 185'er, who happened to also be a former 205lb champion.

You think JDS would land one big uppercut, that's fine. If we're still here if that fight ever gets booked in the future, we can make a fun bet.

He says Cain can do the same thing to Junior, yet a one legged Junior knocked him out.
Now you're in no position to call out any one on making bold claims are you Mr "let's support fighters pre-fight for months on end and ram it down every other members throats about how they're guaranteed to win, and then when they lose, instantly stop supporting said fighter(s) and pretend I didn't say any thing".

So please, pipe down sport. I'll deal with you nearer the Cain/JDS fight and give you a signature you'll never be able to erase.
 
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I would like to see Jones fight someone like Overeem first. Who knows, he might even have the belt before Jones moves up anyway.

Even though these guys are bigger, Jones still has the reach advantage and he uses it.

JDS is a great boxer, but he'd be outranged by Jones with no recourse for a takedown.
 
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Machida at what little stubby reach? Was able to connect on Jones. You are saying JDS...a superior boxer would get out "ranged" all night? You think he would sit at the end of his punches all night?

Jones has no standing KO power at 205. So he probably will have less at HW unless he goes OVEREEM on us. JDS would walk right through any weak jabs Jones had and land his own devastating shots.

Not everything is about reach. Reach certainly helps. But to say a striker like JDS would get out-boxed all night by Jones's weak punches is a little out there.

Miguel Torres had a huge reach for 135. Very technical. Good boxer. And he got caught a few times and finished by guys giving up a half a foot of reach. Timing and technical polished skills are better to have than reach.
 
#16 ·
You see...in the heavyweight business all it takes is one shot. We've seen it with Buster Douglas vs Tyson and Rachman vs Lewis. But JDS is no underdog nor a fluke. Every fight the LHW title holder has been hit...if he gets hit by JDS or any HW for that matter it's gonna be tough to recuperate.

Struve should be the first one to test em followed by Cain then the champ or JDS should he lose then Cain.

Actually I'd like to see Frank Mir vs the LHW champ too...
 
#19 ·
JDS wants no part of Jones. JDS's best bet would be to convince JBJ that he has a reason to stay at LHW. When JBJ goes to HW that title and division are his.

BTW this is what all you JDS nut huggers sound like.

Seriously though, I hope at some point we do get to see these two fight, I think it could be a good fight.
 
#22 · (Edited)
^so many ill-informed opinions and straw-men arguments without justifying them with reality. Saying Junior's never been tested and Machida had the best TDD, give me a break.

Junior is the formula to beating Jones. It's a ridiculously terrible matchup for him on paper, Junior has something around an 88% TDD and he's stopped the shots of Cain and Carwin with ease. Jones would need to spend a good 6 months with Freddie Roach to survive with Junior. JDS has better TDD stats than guys like GSP and Liddell yet you say he's not that good at TDD, I mean, you are just pulling this stuff out of thin air. Go tell on me again, maybe that'll help.
 
#23 ·
^so many ill-informed opinions and straw-men arguments without justifying them with reality. Saying Junior's never been tested and Machida had the best TDD, give me a break.

Junior is the formula to beating Jones. It's a ridiculously terrible matchup for him on paper, Junior has something around an 88% TDD and he's stopped the shots of Cain and Carwin with ease. Jones would need to spend a good 6 months with Freddie Roach to survive with Junior
Machida has a current 83 percent TDD ratio. Keep in mind, this is after the Jones fight occurred. Before the Jones fight it was obviously higher, we can't know what percent exactly, but I'd estimate it to be around the 86 percent mark.

That's almost identical to Junior Dos Santos' TDD percentage you're so keen to throw into your arguments.

The only one it seems with ill-informed opinions appears to be you.

Statistics and percentages only mean so much. It's all relative to a number of other factors and possibilities.
 
#24 ·
Cigano would probably beat any fighter currently on the UFC roster imo. I don't only say that because i'm probably his biggest fan on this site after Khov, you just have to look at his record, his opponents, and how easily he's beaten everyone. Jones would get wrecked within two rounds.
 
#38 ·
Maybe i'm a fan boy but i've watched JDS spar with Shogun (granted Junior has improved alot since then) and I think that Anderson would hand him his first KO loss if the two ever fought. Unfortunately it will never happen..

Imagine if Anderson beat GSP, Bones and JDS and then retired like a boss.

I don't think Andy could beat the big wrestlers in the HW div. but I definitely think he'd beat the strikers.
 
#44 ·
I agree with Silva beating the HW strikers including Dos Santos. In fact, Dos Santos looks like to be tailor made. No TD threat and even if it gets to the ground, no real offensive submission threat. He only boxes, while Silva uses literally EVERY striking tool to be ever invented and he drops people with jabs while walking backwards. Dos Santos may have the best striking timing on the current HW roster, but it's nowhere close to Silva's. With Silva being able to dodge Belfort's hands, Dos Santos couldn't rely on that huge overhand right he dropped Velasquez with, and technical striking is Silva's domain.

With the wrestlers, I'm not sure. A 203ish Silva certainly would be in trouble IF those wrestlers can get a hand on him (but keep in mind that their shots are much slower than Sonnen at 185), but if Silva bulked up and put on some muscles and fought at 230-240 his power would also massively increase his submission threat. So while they might get him down it's the question whether they really want to be on the ground with him.
 
#39 ·
do ppl really think junior is cocky?

if so then i think we need to clarify what it means because i think junior is the epitome of confidence without being cocky

i suppose its always a fine line

i think bones biggest problem in this fight is his lack of real 'wars'. junior will give him one if he doesnt finish quick and i see jones being broken

in future rematches though who knows. to think of a matchup between these guys in say 5 years time fascinates me for some reason
 
#42 ·
Same.

Just thinking of someone the size of JDS and skilled as JDS swinging full force at Jones is a scary thought. He wouldnt get wobbled like he did against Machida... he would get flat out knocked out.

Its possible he can take JDS down and get the win that way but i seriously doubt it. JDS takes the fight 4 out of 5 times. (IMO)
 
#46 ·
There's no doubt Jones is going to fight at HW but if he does, will it be for the title? Will this mean he will have to relinquish his LHW title?

He is fighting Chael next, then it will most likely be either winner of Gustaffson/Shogun or winner of Hendo/Machida. If he beats these guys then a big fight for him at the end of 2013 against a top HW needs to happen.
 
#49 ·
I actually disagree quite a bit. I think Jones would have a legit chance of beating JDS. JDS is by no means a big HW, so if JBJ doesn't cut weight and bulks up a little during a training camp for that fight he could probably make up some of the lost ground. Now you have JDS at a reach disadvantage. Add in JBJ's TDs from the clinch, better cardio, and great top game and we have a fight on our hands.

I still think everyone overrates JDS's standup. Who has he fought that has decent standup? Most guys he faced aren't throwing combos and setting up techniques, they just throw crap and hope it lands.

BTW I am prepared for you to call me insane, say I have no clue what I am talking about, etc. It really doesn't matter to me, lets just see if JDS can hold onto that belt until JBJ gets there for his chance at it.
 
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