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RUMOR: Michael Bisping vs. Vitor Belfort at UFC 156

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#1 ·
https://twitter.com/search/Michael+Bisping+vs.+Vitor+Belfort?partner=Firefox&source=desktop-search

I've listed this as a rumor because I don't buy anything until MMAFighting, MMAJunkie, or MMAWeekly reports it but twitter is blowing up with this, so take it as a rumor for now. Apparently Alden Halpern(the guy who owns MMA Elite which is Bisping's main sponsor) broke the news.

This is the worst possible match up for Bisping outside of Anderson, and even though he got smashed Vitor has to feel somewhat good about the fact he did something to Jones, with Bisping's tendency to get rocked in every fight and Vitor's finishing ability, I'll take Vitor by stoppage.
 
#90 ·
Even if Leben does have a better chin(which I don't think he does) his overall skill set is laughable compared to Vitor's.

The Brazil event looks like it'll be an FX or FUEL event, Vitor vs. Bisping would be a great FX main event.
 
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#93 ·
Nope, no January PPV(dunno why), Aldo/Edgar headlines 156 on Super Bowl weekend. MMAJunkie said this will probably be an FX or FUEL card.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/31382/alc...ieira-added-to-jan-19-ufc-event-in-brazil.mma

As MMAjunkie.com first reported, the UFC will return to Brazil for the Jan. 19 event, though a host city hasn't been determined. The event, which won't air on pay-per-view, is expected to be a UFC on FUEL TV or UFC on FX offering.

Of course, this could end up being something like Bigfoot/Struve, which isn't a bad fight itself and Belfort/Bisping could go to 156.
 
#100 ·
Yeah if I was a Bisping fan I wouldn't be feeling too good about this one, he's been rocked by everyone with decent power he's fought since 2009. If Vitor stuns him I don't see him getting let off the hook.

Even old man Rivera touched his chin, if Bisping wins he'll be right up there with Weidman as far as I'm concerned because this is quite the task for him.
 
#103 · (Edited)
Should be an easy win for Vitor. He's better than Bisping everywhere.

Except the one place that counts: Giving a shit.

Bisping is one of the most driven guys in the sport, he has such a huge chip on his shoulder and really seems to fight purely out of spite. Vitor hasn't really cared about the sport or his career for the better part of a decade.

Bisping by decision. Vitor will come out strong, be unable to finish, and then will crumble in on himself as usual, at which point Bisping will turn it up and it will get ugly for Vitor.
 
#106 ·
Have you?
I have. The last time Vitor mentally caved was against Dan Henderson, which was in 2006. Since then, he's gone on to win (and finish) every fight he's had minus his bouts with Anderson and Jones. He didn't cave against Anderson. That was a flash KO that literally no one saw coming. Nor did he cave against Jones. He took vicious elbow after vicious elbow to the face (only one of which was needed to set-up a finish on Machida), and he still had enough to threaten with a near fight ending arm-bar.

Vitor wins 7 fights post-2006, all of them via finish except for one. He loses to Anderson Silva, which most everyone does, via flash KO. And he, as a middleweight, goes on to threaten the previously thought-to-be untouchable and massive LHW champion. Tell me again how Vitor is still a mental midget.
 
#107 ·
The last time Vitor mentally caved was against Dan Henderson, which was in 2006. Since then, he's gone on to win (and finish) every fight he's had minus his bouts with Anderson and Jones.
That's a fun game.

Fedor is still undefeated if you don't count anything after the Bret Rogers fight.

I like this game.

I'm being glib obviously. But it's easy to make fighters look good if you make stipulations that exclude the fights where they've looked bad.
 
#112 ·
I'm sick of seeing people say that Vitor is too old and shit.

Since 2006, he has had 7 wins, all stoppages with one decision, with all the stroppages but one finishing in the first round. He has two loses, one ridiculous flash KO to the greatest fighter in the world, and the other against the greatest LHW of all time. I don't think it's fair to say he's past it.

Bisping will have a difficult fight here. He has too many defencive lapses to really stay and stand with Vitor. Belfort will go besercker here and will be aiming for a great early KO. To win, Bisping will need to keep his distance, land the jap and then close in for some grappling in a boring fight against the cage.

Bisping by Decision or Belfort by KO.

I hope Bisping wins though because I already have like 5 negs when I said he'd beat Stann. I felt he won the Sonnen fight, so I pretty much have him on a 6 fight streak against pretty good competition. Also, people always quote the Hendo knockout like it proves he's shit. He was KOed by a punch named the H-Bomb, I think it's understandable.
 
#114 ·
This is a five round fight, there's many variables that could come into play, Vitor could hurt Bisping, swarm him but not finish but I don't think that's likely but anything is possible.

Bisping has the better cardio of two, by quite a bit imo, the fact it's in Brazil is also interesting considering Vitor's last fight in Brazil.
 
#118 ·
I expect Vitor to KO Bisping before the fight even goes to the ground. I also doubt Bisping could take Vitor down, Vitor has solid TDD and is stronger than Bisping. If he somehow does, Vitor is excellent defensively off of his back.

Poor Bisping is going to sleep with that glass jaw of his im afraid.
 
#123 ·
How can you say, 'I literally never said that'?

The crux of your entire argument is that Vitor 'crumbles in on himself' or 'gives up the second things get hard' - these are direct quotes. You then explicitly mentioned his fights with Couture, Henderson, Jones, Silva, etc. How can you sit there now and say that you've not said he quits against tougher opponents like Jones, Silva, etc. I think it is you who needs to go back and read your posts, because you're coming apart at the seams.

And I'm certain Bisping is driven. But that doesn't change the fact that he's coming up against a stronger fighter, a superior striker, and a man who will constantly look to submit Bisping, assuming Mike can actually use his mediocre wrestling to successfully take the fight to the ground. I read this same nonsense when Mike fought Henderson... that he was going to dance around the slow, older, and plodding fighter en route to a UD victory. And then I read that very same thing when Bisping came up against Wanderlei Silva. See a pattern?
 
#124 · (Edited)
How can you say, 'I literally never said that'?

The crux of your entire argument is that Vitor 'crumbles in on himself' or 'gives up the second things get hard' - these are direct quotes. You then explicitly mentioned his fights with Couture, Henderson, Jones, Silva, etc. How can you sit there now and say that you've not said he quits against tougher opponents like Jones, Silva, etc. I think it is you who needs to go back and read your posts, because you're coming apart at the seams.
He got KTFO by Silva and beaten into the freaking ground by Jones. He didn't have time to quit in those fights, he was too busy getting obliterated.

But in his other losses, absolutely, he gave up.

But you took the two fights he didn't have time to quit in and pretended like that was my whole argument. Totally ignoring the other 8 losses where it applies.

The guy has 10 losses. Suggesting he's going to lose an 11th fight isn't really reaching imo...

At this point, I'm willing to just let it be. Honestly, I feel dumb even getting sucked into another one of these stupid arguments. People need to stop taking it personally when someone says something they don't particularly like about a fighter they support.
 
#125 ·
I don't particularly care what your opinion is on any man or fighter. I only ask that what you have to say not be a load of non-sensical bollocks. lol, 'he didn't have time to quit'. I'm certain he could have tapped after eating a dozen elbows from Jon Jones in the first round. I know he could have quit before coming out for a second, third, and fourth round, pulling guard, and asking for more. Especially when Shogun tapped to a couple of strikes within the opening seconds of the first round.

But hey, you have a pleasant evening, sport.
 
#128 ·
Bisping isn't going to "keep Vitor down" nor play with his guard in any way shape or form, he will look to posture up, maybe even stand up, push his legs to the side and lands punches ala Denis Kang.

This is the key to Bisping winning, i think standing for 3/5 rounds is too much of a risk, the chances of being KO'd are big i admit this. You guys can ******* hate Bisping all you want that shit is absolutely cool with me, but he is not a stupid fighter and i can't imagine Bisping would stand for any longer than he deems it necessary.

Bisping is not an elite college wrestler, but he is becoming an elite MMA wrestler; pretty ******* hard to keep off you after mixing his game up and even harder to get down.

I like that people are writing Bisping off, it's about time he was an underdog anyway, but for me this is an immensly close fight, maybe even as close to 50/50 as it gets.
 
#129 ·
Relax, sport. No one is writing Bisping off entirely. Any fighter can win on any given night. I just find it questionable that you're putting so much faith in his wrestling ability. First things first, Bisping is not becoming an 'elite' MMA wrestler. He's still very much a novice. Outwrestling Brian Stann is not a credential, especially when 90% of this board slams Stann's atrocious TDD. I admire Bisping's wanting to better his game, and I'll admit that his wrestling has indeed gotten much better. But he is far from elite. I'd call him a work in progress.

Secondly, you're forgetting just how strong Vitor Belfort is. Here's a big, strong MW who bucked off and withstood essentially a HW's wrestling in Anthony Johnson. And Anthony Johnson is a pretty damn good wrestler to begin with. I just find it funny that despite that, some believe that Bisping is going to come in and wallop Vitor with wrestling and ground and pound. I'd be willing to bet that Belfort doesn't get taken down once.

And lol... right... it's about time Bisping was the underdog. Lord knows that's never happened before.
 
#138 ·
The good thing Bisping circles left. If it's five rounds there could be an upset here. But I'm going to have to go with Vitor although I really want to see Bisping vs Anderson man. It should have been Bisping vs Boetsch or Weidman not a knock out artist.

In every single fight Bisping always get rocked at least once. There's a funny pattern.
 
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