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JDS wants a rematch ASAP

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#1 ·
“He was better and deserved the win,” said JDS. “But I used the wrong strategy. I was too worried about his takedowns and didn’t protect my face, so he hit me. When the fight was on the ground, I should have used my jiu-jitsu more – I trained it so much. But I just tried to get back up and it didn’t help me. But on the ground he is very good, very strong. I didn’t really connect with any good punches. It was disappointing, because I was feeling good, had an awesome training camp, everything was right. But that’s how fighting is … I want (a rubbermatch) now, soon. I won the first one and he got a rematch. Now I lost and I want my rematch. I’m saying I want this fight. I’ll get my belt back.”
the rest of the interview can be found Here, but it is in Portugese.
 
#4 ·
I think using BJJ and playing around in the guard in a rematch is the wrong game plan to have. I think the fight would even go a lot worse if he came into the rematch with that mindset. The Big Foot is a respectable BJJ black belt and he got absolutely schooled (and even that's an understatement) on the ground trying to mess around in the guard.

Unless your names Werdum, Big Nog or Mir, trying to control Cain on the ground and work for sweeps and subs is a bad idea.

His best bet is to do what he did last time - get up as quickly as possible, but this time actually punish Cain for missed take downs and actually develop some kind of offensive clinch game with knees, elbows and kicks.
 
#5 ·
Basically not getting caught with that shot will change the next fight. If Cain fights as wrecklessly as he was looking to be, JDS WILL stop him. I personally don't see Cain winning the third. JDS will keep his hands up, use his natural TDD and punish Cain to the body. I'd see it being close to a decision, but this time I'll go for the risk and say JDS by TKO in the 4th. Ima remember this thread to quote once again when I'm right :D
 
#12 ·
Cain struggles to control JDS on the ground and in the clinch at moments in the fight where JDS won't even remember. He never kept JDS down at one moment in the entire fight. I think he could use some BJJ grappling because his hand fighting in the clinch and ground control aren't at the level they could be. JDS without being gassed or stunned isn't really in trouble in that aspect imo.
 
#13 ·
yeah he did, but he also landed the first two takedowns of the fight on an unpunched, ungassed JDS. CBB if you watched Cain's fights you'd see he doesn't really try to hold guys down, he kinda just stays in dominant position and continues to land strikes, as soon as they get up he works for the TD again.

This is one of his tactics to gas opponents.
 
#15 ·
Yea, let's just forget about Junior being hailed as having arguably the best take down defense in the entire sport before the fight.

So, Cain Velasquez missed quite a few take downs on JDS, where as in all of his other fights he would complete them with ease. Might have some thing to with the fact that he was fighting a guy called Junior Dos Santos, the dude that never gets taken down, ever.

brb criticising Cains wrestling skills
brb dumping Brock Lesnar onto the mat with a casual single leg take down
 
#18 ·
No doubt it was to do with JDS being that good. JDS has better TDD when on dream street than most have at their peak. But if Cain's wrestling is supposed to be that amazing, should it overtake JDS' TDD? JDS was making him look foolish before he got hurt and gassed, and although a harsh criticism on Cain because after all, HE was the one who hurt JDS, but if he wants to try and use the same grappling he did before JDS got caught, he's going to be made pay for it.
 
#26 · (Edited)
I'd love to see a rematch, and I do think JDS could prevail in it.

JDS was crushed by the 1st round right hand, and never recovered from what I could see. You could see it in his eyes. Yet he still was able to keep the fight standing for the most part and never got knocked down again. Cain scored a few takedowns, but never was able to keep him down, and never could take him down consistently and never did much damage on the ground. There were a lot of stuffs which is interesting considering how staggered JDS was. The guy was just out of it, yet survived the rest of the fight, minimizing damage.

In the next fight I do see JDS able to keep the fight standing even more effectively, and punch much more effectively.

BTW, these two fights remind me a lot of the Liddell Couture fights.
 
#30 ·
Why do people keep mentioning how the initial over hand right basically won Cain the rest of the fight when JDS himself said immediately in the post fight interview that the shot was no big deal because he gets hit like that all the time in training.

brb JDS is a liar
 
#37 · (Edited)
Honestly I don't get why people are in denial about this. Fighters say all kinds of things. But anyone watching the fight can see what happened to JDS after taking that shot. It knocked him down and dazed him and he was never the same.

Honestly, does anyone sane really deny this?

Cain won the fight, but the big punch is why. Just as the big punch won it for JDS the first fight. Seeesh, defensive even in victory.
 
#38 · (Edited)
I guess what your saying is this punch was more effective than the 1st round knock down punch, but I don't see how this makes any sense. If you stagger a guy and then get a shot in on the ground, how does that prove the big punch didn't work?

I never said JDS never took another punch, I merely said he brilliantly avoided any real damage for the rest of the fight while staggering around like a drunken sailor from that one punch. I'm sorry if that kind of win isn't enough to satisfy you. I mean I though Cain did great considering how good JDS is, even fighting blind. Basically, after the first rough Cain was trying to finish and drunk guy, and couldn't do it.
 
#47 ·
Sigh.. that "drunk guy" was also the current number one heavy weight in the world. probably the most dangerous fighter on the planet..

so yes you are a nut huger, at least embrace it..
Huh? I'm a nut hugger because JDS was/is the most dangerous fighter on the planet.

Someone want to translate??

Honestly, I don't get people. I have no clue what you are talking about. :confused02:
 
#40 · (Edited)
That fight really opened my eyes to how lethal and ruthless Cain's pace is. (I knew he was fantastic but that performance really was above and beyond).

That big first punch that landed on JDS was definitely the beginning of the end. He couldn't recover and mount and sort of offence towards Cain. I know some of Cain's TD's look telegraphed, but that pace wore on Junior to the point where he dropped his hands.... well the rest is history, brilliant game plan. On a side note, did that punch actually break Junior's jaw or was that rumours floating around? It would make total sense why he couldn't gather his bearings for the next 4 rounds.

I'm all for a rematch down the road, but that would mean JDS would have to win 2-3 convincing fights and that's also assuming Cain doesn't lose to Reem.

Like both Cain and JDS, I did pick Junior to win 2nd Rd TKO and was proven wrong. They're both two different fighters, now Junior has to pick himself up and go down the road to redemption.
 
#53 ·
JDS should have to do what Cain did go and have another fight win it and get the rematch.
 
#63 ·
Now you met me then :)

JDS is one of few fighters out there who not only is skilled, talneted, but even famous. And with all that he stays humble. He has one of the greatest personality in the sport. I don't think he will ever say bad stuff about others. Man just see how his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan. Did that quick interview give you a clue that this guy has got beaten up for 5 rounds, each 5 minutes, and lots his belt to an opponent?

Wish there others like JDS.

BTW, I know more than 1 language!
 
#58 ·
JDS needs to circle better and use some distance to his advantage. Cain is going to use his cardio/pace advantage again because it's quite clearly the biggest strength he has against Junior. I do believe the that huge right from Cain hurt JDS for at least the rest of the first and about 3 minutes of the second, but he recovered pretty nicely from there. Unfortunately for him Cain had already taken full advantage of the damage and drained him basically out.
 
#60 ·
Article full translation.

Here it goes.
AT THE HOSPITAL, JDS AKNOWLEDGES THE LOSS AND CALLS FOR AN EARLY REMATCH

The Brazilian jokes about his looks and says he used the wrong strategy against Velasquez, focusing on take down defense over attacking.

Inspite the marks on his face from the fight against Cain Velasquez, the Brazilian Junior Cigano was still in good mood when leaving the hospital he was taken to, in Las Vegas, after the UFC 155. Missing the post fight press conference, the fighter went straight for medical check ups. Along his wife, Vilsana, and his assessor, Ana Claudia Guedes, the fighter left the traumatology section joking with the staff and saying he was feeling just "a little swollen"

"- I had no fracture, I am just swollen. Do I look pretty?" He asked before the picture.

Later, analyzing the fight, Cigano did reckon he used the wrong strategy and that he should have used more Jiu-Jitsu when he was on the ground.

"- He was better and deserved to win, but I have used the wrong strategy. I worried too much with his attacks to my legs (TD attempts) and I left my face unprotected. That's why he hit me. When I was on the ground, I should have used more Jiu-Jitsu, which I have trained so much. I tried to stand back up and that gave me troubles as well, but on the ground he is very good, very strong. I didn't hit him with any good punch, really. I had a great training camp, everything was fine, but this is the way fights are..." He said.

The Brazilian, who will stay in the US until January 14, took the opportunity to ask for a third fight against Velasquez to be scheduled soon.

"- I want it right now, soon. I've won the first and he got the rematch. Now I've lost and I want my rematch. I am saying that I want this fight. I will get my belt back."

On his way out of the hospital, Cigano met the American Tim Boetsch, who was defeated by Costa Philippou and taken to the same unit as his. Both greeted and also took a picture together. Smiling, Boetsch also joked about their looks.

"- I don't even know if we are smiling or not. By the looks of our faces, it can't be said." He said smiling.
 
#67 ·
Disagree completely, Cain is just as humble as JDS is and a great person to have sitting on top of the HW division. The UFC is very lucky to have them both, they're down to earth and similar to Fedor who let his fights speak for themselves while being the guy next door.
 
#79 ·
Cain is like a Mach 3 version of Randy Couture. Quicker, better cardio, and more power. Randy used to break people, and although Junior didnt quit, he looked broken after the first round. Similar to the syliva randy fight. The recent fight was like a mirror image of that couture fight only with latest and best mma fighters dueling it out.
A fully fit Cain could hold onto this title for years, junior may have met his match.
 
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