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***OFFICIAL*** Nate Marquardt vs. Jake Ellenberger Thread

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#1 ·
Welterweight bout: 170 pounds

 
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#4 ·
I think this is a close fight. Marquardt looked good vs. Woodley at his debut at WW. But then lost to Saff....who we all may have underrated. Marquardt is still a good fighter, well-rounded.

I think Ellenbeger is a tad overrated. He is a poor man's Hendricks. His best win in his career is probably Jake Shields. Jake Shields who has looked like crap at 170 and had lost his father that week of the fight. Other than that he has beat Sanchez...Mike Pyle 3 years ago. He really doesn't have a signature win. No guys he has beat are still relevant anywhere at WW. Pyle may be a fringe top 10 guy at this point simply for his nice little win streak.

No clue who wins. I think people overrate Ellenberger though.
 
#6 ·
Nate suffers from Kenny Florian syndrome, he chokes when it's all on the line but he could win this fight, Berger is a confused man ever since his fights with Kampmann and Diego where he faded. I still believe he can KO anyone at 170 though.

Nate by split.


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#8 ·
This is a really good match up if you ask me. Both fighters are strong and very explosive both in wrestling and striking. Marquardt has had a few bad performances in his career but has also had many great showings so I'm not gonna write him off because of his last fight. Ellenberger is very similar as he has had his share of bad performances as well. Hard to pick a winner here, I'm going with Ellenberger just because I feel he is the more powerful of the two though both fighters have the potential to win in devastating fashion and Marquardt is the more well rounded making it a very tough fight to choose a winner.
 
#9 ·
Very tough fight. On one hand we have Jake whom has lethal KO power, but seems to fade in the later rounds due to power punching.

Nate is a much better rounded fighter but he has to respect Ellenberger's power. If he mixes it up I have him winning a UD 29/28.

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#19 ·
I'm not saying I agree with TRT but there is a difference between using it and abusing it. That's what we have here. Hendo uses it to raise his level to the normal level that he can no longer naturally produce. Not saying that's wrong but Nate used it to elevate his levels well above the natural limits to gain an advantage over even the most fit high level athletes. Dan uses the loop hole to his advantage while Nate abused it to gain an unfair advantage. They give you plenty of wiggle room to come in with high levels and he blew right past that still. IMO it was intentional cheating and he was hoping to get the fight in before he got busted or hoping he could somehow slip by unnoticed. He went beyond the already "allowed cheating" and took it to a whole new level. He shouldn't be allowed in the UFC, those levels are dangerous to his opponents and not human.
 
#23 ·
Both guys are pretty inconsistent. Ellenberger has issues with cardio and his jiu jitsu while Marquardt may have one of the worst mental games and fight IQ's in the sport. Jake has decent takedows and Marquardt has terrible defensive wrestling. If Jake fights conservatively, he should be able to control Marquardt throughout the fight.

Ellenberger via UD (29-28, 30-27, 30-27)

I can see this looking a bit like Florian/Maynard
 
#31 ·
I think Jake wins by KO. Nate has better striking but he almost has as bad fight IQ as Struve or Kampmann. Or maybe he's just mentally broken I don't know.

Nate can look extremely impressive at times & on paper he's a really good fighter but I don't think he will ever live up to that theoretical potential.

Should Ellen feel threatened on the feet he should be able to take Nate down without much problems and control him there.

I would really like to see a rematch between Kampmann & Marquardt, the two guys with so much skill that never seem to put it all to use.
 
#35 ·
Nate has been at this way too long. The dude could have retired after his PANCRASE career and been a 30+ fight veteran. It's outrageous how long he's been fighting, he was fighting before Fedor had even started competing. He was in the UFC before Anderson.


But IMO this ginger relic doesn't have his head in the game and he'll lose to Jake by decision.
 
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