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***OFFICIAL*** Ryan Bader vs. Glover Teixeira Thread

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#1 ·



Light Heavyweight bout: 205 pounds
Main Event - Five round fight




 
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#34 ·
Great job by Glover, rolled with the punches against the cage then landed the perfect combo. Was not in trouble during that last stage of the fight. Bader once again shows he is more athlete than fighter.

Tex got tagged earlier, but if this makes you feel like all of a sudden Glover has no chin and no chance at the title, you have a lot to learn about fighting.
 
#36 ·
Bader hits hard so I would never say he's got a weak chin. I just think he's got some holes in his strike defense.

It was good to see him mix it up with some higher competition but it also showed him some things he needs to work on.

I think Tex's biggest issue is going to become age. He's 33 (34 in one month) and I know it's be done before, but I think he's going to go down as another one of those fighters that you wish had put this all together in their 20s.

Glover had some Visa issues that kept him out of the US, which is a huge shame seeing that he lost 6 of his peak years.

A fight will always be a fight, but I didn't see anything tonight that I think Jones should be overly worried about.
 
#38 ·
One thing I noticed was that he's resilient and tenacious. Getting hit like that and gathering your wits requires experience and mental toughness. Cuz you know the LHW title holder will land those elbows and every single fighter has withered including the immortal Shogun!
 
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#39 ·
I'm pretty sure Grant will look to close the distance immediately and look for a submission. Very interesting fight. I'd favor Bendo over Grant because of his athleticism and strength. Pettis is far more versatile, but Grant is extremely strong.

Age old contest of keeping his distance vs someone who wants to close the distance. Sturdy test for the newly crowned champion.
Exactly this. If Grant's going to find a way to win, he's got to close the distance and work his clinch/dirty boxing game. Ideally, he's got to keep Pettis up against the cage and work his short hooks and uppercuts as well as knees and punches to the body. If he makes Pettis work all fight and mixes in his takedowns so that Pettis has to defend them, he's got a shot. He needs to vary his attack and he can't give Pettis any room to breathe. Easier said than done, though. Exciting match-up between two incredibly well-rounded fighters.

No idea how this ended up in the wrong thread, seeing as how I was replying to someone's post. The site's acting up on me right now. Sorry all.
 
#48 ·
:laugh:

This post should be archived to demonstrate the general idiocy of MMA fans.


Apparently a guy can be a bust or overhyped if he's probably the 2nd or 3rd best LHW in the world...behind arguably the most talented fighter to date.

You are on some magic mushrooms if you think some unstoppable destroyer that is going to "give Jones too much trouble" is just going to pop up nonchalantly anytime soon. No one said this about Glover other than he was probably a top 10 LHW talent long before the big names stopped ducking him.


He also represents the toughest challenge to Jones currently, as like Pettis, hes dangerous everywhere. He has the stiker's chance of landing something big and the scrambler's chance. Jones leaves his neck in for a guillotine on a takedown it could be over, and I'm willing to bet Glover is more dangerous on his back than a guy like Vitor Belfort.

Not favoring him by any means, clearly when you do the sort of things Jones has done in this sport you deserve to be the favour it's over everyone, but I certainly wouldn't bet on Jones hiven the number of viable ways he could lose this fight.


I do love though, that every time a guy doesn't steamroll another to 10 guy you have people that have nothing to add but "Myeh! He can't beat the champion!"

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#43 ·
I think Glover has a better chance of beating Bones than Gus has... Mainly because Glover seems to have pretty good wrestling, whereas Gus has zero wrestling.
 
#47 ·
Well, lets get real here and Im a fan of Gus more than Jones but Sonnen looked like a bitch the way Jones intentionally beat him at his own game.

Glover cant stand with Jones, cant take him down, cant beat him in the clinch, Glover has no advantages over Jones whatsoever that I see anyway. Punching power is sexy unless you cant hit me then its JACK and IMO Jones would give Tex fits standing.

They both deserve the opportunity they both earned it and they both are going to get beat by jones. JDS is Jones biggest threat or hunt with his power.

Anything can happen but nobody at LHW SHOULD be able to beat Jones.
 
#59 ·
Bader has got to be more disciplined. It cost him against Tito, Machida, and now Glover. He probably would have lost to the latter two anyway, but his lack of discipline has contributed to his demise in 3/4 of his losses.

I was surprised at how well he was actually doing. He was controlling Glover pretty well with his wrestling and stunned him on more than one occasion. Kudos to Glover for surviving and coming back like that.
 
#64 ·
When I look at the competition Jones had in UFC and the downfall state of some of the big names he did beat I wonder how come people can dismiss Tex abilities and accomplishments so fast in comparison to him.

Just to point out Vitor almost ripped Jones arm apart out of a broken hand, but Jones would right away destroy Tex, a strong ADCC level grappler, if he puts him to the ground? :confused02:

I expect a good match up between them, IF, Jones gets passed through Gus.
 
#66 ·
i sincerely doubt we will see Glover throwing up armbars and triangles. Arona was a good ADCC competitor and he is pure top game, more then likely Glover is as well.

He's got a punches chance against Jones and that's about it. though he probably won't be getting ragdolled early as his wrestling is pretty good so there's more of a chance for it to happen.
 
#65 ·
In all likelihood Jones wins 2 of the toughest fights he's ever had back to back. That being said he probably gets roughed up real bad in both, losing atleast 1 round in each. Jones' toolset is superior to Tex's and Gus' as well as having the physical advantage. I'd give either a chance against Jones if Jon wasn't so tough, he's proven he won't quit and it's going to take a miracle shot to take Jones out. People used to question Jones's chin and toughness and after his last few fights he seems as tough as anyone, the only guy that is going to beat him is someone like Cormier that can physically dictate where the fight goes. The only way to beat Jones is to sub him or get him moving backwards because his reach just makes it so hard to land any shots with power.
 
#72 ·
Roflcopter, no offence, but do you understand anything about this sport?

You do?? Oh, then why do you talk about Alexander as if he is a ballerina when in fact he is a great great fighter who convincingly beat back to back idiots like Rua and Thiago Silva. They have not been the same since their mauling.

I don't know how Bader lost to this overrrated Teixeira, but I do know that it wouldn't happen again. Had Bader used his superior intelligence and developed a submission on Teixeira the moment he busted his weak chin, we would be seeing a worthy strapping LHW contender, but now we have to hear all this ringing about how this bum, who got his butt kicked by Ed Herman, is going to be the one to beat Alexander. No, this will not happen. Alexander is ten years younger than Texeira, and you Rolf think he has less chance of beating Jones?

Typical.
 
#87 ·
I think people were caught up in the fact that Machida was actually competitive with Jones in the first round while many were expecting him to get steamrolled. At that point, Machida was really the first guy to show any kind of resistance to Jones (until the second round) but I wouldn't quite say Machida "won the round".
 
#89 ·
I may need to watch that fight again, but I remember a pick 'em round where neither fighter did that much to take it. In which case the nod should go to the champion.

Not that it matters since, y'know, there are no robberies in a fight in which someone gets dropped and then choked unconscious.
 
#94 ·
Ok, a valid argument I am interested. Now the question is who on his list of who he has beaten adds to his momentum other than DW declaring him the next big thing at LHW? It's like the Matt Brown argument. I would love to see Matt Brown get a shot against GSP, and he has a massive momentum swing on him, but who on his list of victims says that he is a contender?

Please don't take this as me being a dick, I really do want to hear your argument. As far as I currently see it Tex has momentum solely through hype, but I am more than open to hear justification to how I am wrong.

Edit: No matter how I read it in my own head I think I sound like a dick in this post when I am trying not to be.
 
#98 ·
There's more to it than the bottom line of "who has he beat, and where were they ranked?"

He's faced a pretty good wrestler in Kingsbury, and crushed him. He outfought Kyle in every aspect.

He fought a very good Striker in Maldonado and outstruck him. Maldonado is not a complete fighter, and any decent LHW would be able to take him down and dominate him on the ground, but outboxing him is a different accomplishement, and Glover did that easily.

So he isn't just beating mediocre fighters by exploiting their weaknesses, but by beating them at their strengths.

He hit a quick submission on Te-Huna Not a huge accomplishment, but showing his well-roundedness and killer instinct.

His most imressive win is Bader, both in his opponent quality, and method of victory. he outlanded Bader most of the fight, and landed the only TD against another good wrestler. But the finish was spectacular. He got caught, backed up against the cage, which spells big trouble for most fighters, and within seconds had the composure to roll with a couple of hooks, wait for the next combination to come, slip the uppercut beautifully and throw a counter left-right combination that landed right on the numbers and put Bader on his back.

Such quick recovery and acumen in that position is astonishing. Glover is the real deal, and I reach that conclusion not by looking at who he's beaten, but by seeing how he's beaten them.
 
#104 ·
...I missed the vote on this thread because it was pretty obvious to me one way or another- Bader was gonna get smoked...and smoked he did. Nasty combination by GT dropping Bader hard. Glover is not going away. He's another brutal Brazilian who is just a fight or two away from getting a title shot. GT is pretty much the scariest dude out there at 205 right now. I don't see anyone---including legends calling him out. Nobody wants to face Tex...pretty understandable. Glover called out Rampage and schooled him convincingly. Glover Teixeria is becoming the man to beat at 205 with perhaps has one of the most complete games in MMA...
 
#110 ·
I love all the Debbie Downers. People are fans of Glover and excited about his prospects. Yet we get "he has nothing for Jones!" "You think he can hang with Jones???" "Glover got rocked in 2 fights!!!".

Settle down people. Can't people get excited about a fighter that is exciting? Of course he probably won't beat Bones. We got excited for Diaz, Condit, and now Hendricks. Does it mean they were going to beat GSP? Bones is a P4P top guy, of course he is going to be favored against anyone at 205.

But Glover is well-rounded, and exciting fighter who is ALWAYS looking to finish, seemingly a humble and nice guy as well. He probably has a better chance than Gustaf or at least more ways to possibly win.

This place is hilarious. Anytime anyone gets excited about a fighter or root for a guy, people are quick to say "NO WAY HE BEATS SO AND SO!!!" WHo cares. Tex is one of the best guys to watch in MMA. And he isn't a dick. He should have more fans than he does. No one is claiming he is the next all time great. There is NO ONE at 205. People should be excited at what he brings to the division rather than write him off just because he will be a big underdog just like Rashad, Rampage, Gustaf, Machida and any other legend/elite fighter of the division was.
 
#111 ·
Getting excited about Glover and stating that he is the top contender, 2nd or 3rd best at LHW and possibly going to eclipse Jones' accomplishments are 2 very different things.

Some people have gone way too far overboard with their expectations of Glover and unfortunately he is due for a slide when he starts facing the big boys in the division.
 
#113 ·
Glover would do well against Jones. Sure as hell would give him his best fight up to now I think. Standing they are fairly even but Bones is on another level everywhere else. Dude is just way too good at every aspect. Can't train natural ability like that.

I think its a possibility Tex could put him to sleep standing but its unlikely Bones would keep the fight there.
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#115 ·
In my honest opinion, Glover and everyone else at LHW had better find a way to either put on 40 pounds or lose 20... Jon Jones is a freak of nature that will not be losing to anyone anytime soon. On a personal level, Glover has yet to really blow my mind.

Having said all of that, this IS MMA, and you never know.
 
#116 ·
On a personal level, Glover has yet to really blow my mind.
I felt exactly like this till this fight. But I really cant express how impressed I was with the finish. Back against the cage, under pressure, and out comes a beautiful counter combination that made me wet my knickers. I mean, how many fighters in the UFC can do that? It's a *very* rare thing in MMA to see that level of striking. Were you not impressed?

Teixeira went up a tier in my estimation. From thinking he had zero chance against Bones, I now feel he has some tools that could throw up problems for Jones.

Having said that, Jones is a beast from another dimension. Tex may have a few tools. Bones has a whole fecking walk-in waldrobe full of fancy options. Tex may have 2 ways to win. Bones has 28.
 
#125 ·
Also that counter was not that impress because it was Ryan F'n Bader standing there swinging slow ass homerun shots into Glover's arms. Frank Mir could have countered him off the cage.
There are a few fighters in MMA of Ryan Bader quality. If it was that simple, we would see quality counters like that all the time... but we dont. We'll be lucky if we see shit like that once a year on UFC main card which is supposed to be the cream of the crop. I've certainly never seen Frank Mir throw anything in his entire career that looked anywhere near as good.
 
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