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TUF Tate vs Rousey LiVE discussion

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#1 ·
Discuss the episodes as they air live.
 
#229 ·
Interesting fight.

Dana and some of the other fighters were throwing our crap like "Raquel just froze out there" "She didn't turn up"

Its total shite tbh, Jessica was dumb... but that was the same chick that beat Duke.

Raquel went out there and tried to do her low volume hard counter punching style against a high level classical female boxer, Jessica Rakoczy fights in a style that kills any chance of female boxing getting any interest, But its an effective style.

She jabs, over and over to the head and body waiting for a reaction... when she sees one she sticks in a lead left hook or straight right. That's all she does, all with very little power leaving very little room for a counter.

Raquel had to change her game up, she didn't... so she lost.
 
#230 ·
I've barely watched this season which is rare for me, but isn't Jessica the girl who came in with a 1-3 career record? It's crazy that she's in the finals, and it would be even crazier if she wins it all.

Since I haven't been watching, Does that say a lot about how poor the talent is this season, or does that say a lot about how much she has improved on the show?

By the way, happy thanksgiving. :D
 
#231 ·
No that was a really bad fight from Raquel, I think she was injured. I believe both of her fights (Evinger and Duke) were better fighters than Jessica, Jessica just got a easy draw to the finale.

Jessica likely doesn't make it out of the first round if this were an all female season.

We'll see what happens but I think Team Tate is going to steamroll Team Rousey in the finale.
 
#234 ·
I don't know what Pennington was doing. It was like she was trying to not get hit. By somebody who really wasn't throwing power shots. I agree with Dana. She froze. She was up against somebody with faster hands, and she just didn't decide what to do. She just stood at Rakoczy optimal range and hoped for chances to counterpunch.

Rakoczy is fast, but that jab-the-head, jab-the-body tactic is a head kick waiting to happen. And against an opponent willing to get hit once to hit twice ..... I don't see how she's gonna keep Pena off of her.
 
#235 ·
I think both of the guys who failed to make weight made the same mistake.

They only looked at the number of pounds they had to cut thinking that if some people can cut 20 pounds, they can cut 10.

They might not have realized sugar and salt cause the body to retain water, making it impossible to cut weight.
 
#236 ·
Normal amounts of sugar don't really cause that problem like salt does. Never consume sodium during the final portion of your cut, your body wants to retain water to balance out the electrolytic levels as part of basic homeostatic maintenance. However small amounts of sugars in food are fine. They are easily converted energy sources and can help you sweat out the last few pounds more easily.
 
#239 ·
I went back and looked at Rakoczy's elimination fight vs Revelina Berto and a couple of things stood out. Rakoczy is REALLY vulnerable to submissions. Berto had serious threats with armbar, triangle and heel hook. The other thing was, with her arm hyper-extended, Rakoczy picked up Berto and slammed her. Not that many 135 women can really do that, expecially with only one arm to work with.

I don't like how Rakoczy fights. She's a point fighter if the opponent doesn't force the action. But she's physically strong and has very quick hands. Six weeks in the house could do very good things for a fighter that raw.
 
#240 ·
Gotta say I was really please with the lack of sexual drama this season, everyone actually acted like adults in the house for a change, never would have exected them to come off so well when they announced men and women.
 
#244 ·
Rakoczy's coach is Dewey Cooper an ex K-1 guy who probably knows a lot about kickboxing, but zero when it comes to wrestling or grappling.

If Rakoczy had trained with Ronda or someplace she could have focused on her wrestling and grappling, she might've defeated Pena.

Don't think she got the training / sparring she needed.
 
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