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#1 ·
GSP to hold press conference Friday

Georges St-Pierre is set to announce his future plans at a press conference at the end of the week. Le Journal De Montreal reports that St-Pierre is holding a press conference at his gym, Montreal's Tristar, on Friday.

A UFC official told MMAjunkie that they hope to have more information on the event soon. GSP has been taking time off since his controversial win over Johny Hendricks by split decision at UFC 167 last month, claiming personal reasons.
I hope he plans on taking his talents to South Beach
 
#3 ·
It sounds like he made up his mind to retire. I dont think he wants to fight Hendricks again. Unless this is a clever way to announce a REMATCH to fight Hendricks again and build up some suspense right from the bat. If that is the case i'm wrong in saying he does not want to fight Hendricks again (Obviously lol).

I know people are talking about GSP not performing the way he used to and its most likely a mental thing. But i personally never agreed with that. I think GSP is performing the same way and his speed is still there. The first 3 takedowns versus Hendricks in the first round were amazingly quick. He was able to catch Hendricks off guard with it and took him down fast. The next 2 Hendricks knew was coming and stuffed it with a planned upper cut. But those Takedowns were prime GSP takedowns. He also threw the inside lead leg kick faster then iv seen anyone throw. He was in and out before Hendricks could throw a punch.

Iv never seen all this slowing down and "that obviously wasnt the GSP we know from a few fights ago" that other people talk about. I think the only thing that has changed is that he is facing better competition and thus he cant look as good. He would still beat all his opponents back to his first fight very handily. The only opponent he would not beat is Hendricks. And thats the opponent he is getting.

This is a good time to retire. He has the belt, the record, the money, the fame, respect, etc etc. He has alot to lose if he keeps fighting and from GSPs interviews its obvious he cares about leaving a superb legacy. Which IMO would be good even if he rematches Hendricks and loses but im sure to him retiring with the belt is alot better and easier then retiring on a win streak breaking loss and no belt. Especially when then people will say "Well he should have 2 losses in a row right now". On the other hand currently you have some people who believe GSP won the first fight fair and square (Im not one of them mind you but what i think does not matter since GSP has that W).
 
#5 ·
I'd lost respect for him if he did. Hendricks deserves a rematch, win or lose.

How do people call GSP boring? I'm not overly excited for his match ups, but at the end of the day he DOES strike, work his jab, impress with takedowns etc. Also, dominance is exciting, and then in turn a dominating figure beating put in trouble is exciting. It's like the people calling Mayweather boring.
 
#6 ·
GSP = boring could have been the winner of the forums end of year awards for best forum meme. It's utter rubbish. GSP is anything but boring.

Hope he retires. He doesn't seem mentally there any more.
 
#11 ·
But does he need a bit fantastical press conference?

Right now, GSP is a ***** is he retires. Hendricks had him, the judges were wrong. It's not GSP's fault, but he can't deny Hendricks the greatest moment of his MMA career by ducking the rematch.

You clearly are a HUGE GSP fan. Fair enough. But your opinion isn't the be all and end all of MMA. I'd almost say a majority of MMA fans I've spoke to are bored watching GSP fight, and don't care about his upcoming fights. I'm not excited about him fighting, but I enjoy his fights for the most part and wouldn't call him boring personally, but none the less, the dude's opinion is fair and pretty popular.
 
#14 ·
We clearly have different views on MMA dude... ofcourse we are watching it for the excitement too , That why the sport tis so popular , but I personnaly love every aspect of the sport , even how a fighter cuts weight or what he trains more and how much he trains , style and much more (even how strong they are mentaly/physically etc)...
I do think that GSP won the fight on points (cuz of the points sytem flawsbla bla bla) I dont wanna get into this discossion again ... But from a fight point of view ofcourse Hendricks won...
And I'm defending GSP here cuz I hate when people say that he's boring , they almost impling that he doesnt know how to fight , cuz they dont see the skill when gsp its on top of his oponent how precise , skilful and careful not to make a mistake , and not to say his hart , even when most fighters would slow down and easy give up he pushes and gives his best ...
That's why I get offended when people say that aboutGeorge cuz they dont see all of that , thats why I said that guy its not real mma fan cuz he doesn see all of that ...
(and btw compared to Rory ,GSP its way more entertaining ...)
Johny its kinda of a fighter that everybody likes , his wrestling and take down def its so good . Thats why he's so confident and awesome on the feet , cuz he knows that he can go thro anything ...
And btw Johny said that he doesnt care about GSP or what GSP will do , he want the belt and the belt only ;)
 
#17 ·
People can be skilled, careful etc. and still go for the knockout. GSP's lack of interest in finishing a fight is why some people are bored of him.

I do enjoy aspects of the training and stuff, but only slightly. What MMA is to be, is when the cage door closes. Roy Nelson is lazy as fk in the gym, but dude has a sledgehammer for a right arm and can knock out almost every fighter in the division. That's the important thing.

Mate this is Georges St-Pierre not Cathal Pendred...
Yes...Cathal Pendred...? But to me, a press conference is a bit overboard. I'd tell my bosses, and they could do their on presser.

I'm right with the majority on GSP lost and should give a rematch to JH. But if the guy is seeing Aliens he needs some serious mental help first. Your health comes first when your rich, young and good looking like GSP.
This must be why I destroy myself with alcohol :(
 
#18 ·
LOL I cant believe this. People are bitching about him holding a press conference? I wonder if the people bitching about him holding a press conference are the same people who bitched because he wanted to keep things private. He says nothing he loses he has a press conference to address the questions people have and make an announcement he loses. I think its a good idea to have a press conference.

Second Hendricks won the fight thats not a question. However after the third time watching it GSP could have won on points, said it before but the scoring system is flawed.

About GSP being boring this is what I have found out about GSP. I think he could have had a lot more finishes if he would go for them. This IMO is not GSP's fault I believe its his corner and gameplan. I remember a fight forget which one but inbetween rounds Greg Jackson straight told GSP to stop passing gaurd and just maintain position. I think there are opportunities to go for submissions or get to a more dominant position but GSP being the smart strategic fighter he is does not deviate from his gameplan. I think this may be why some people consider him boring.

I dont consider him boring but I do think that in a lot of his fights he could have done more to finish.
 
#24 ·
No one knows his reasons for retiring, or if he even is retiring. For all we know, his mindset and other personal issues might be affecting his performances. I'm not about to demand that GSP risk brain damage at the hands of Hendricks so as to appease my sense of entitlement before he retires.
 
#25 ·
I do not appreciate GSP style that much, but I will miss this guy around if he really decides to retire. All the power to him if he wants to, even with the controversial "win" over Hendricks.

GSP is all commitment, hard work and respect. Overall I consider him not only one of the best athletes of all times, but also the far best personality in MMA. And if his style does not please everyone, his opponents, some high level SOBs, certainly had no answer to shut it down.

I will provide the excuse I saw for him for the last fight: I think Hendricks edged that fight, but I also think GSP's head is going through performance debilitating issues. He wasn't as concentrated as in other times. Ok, maybe JH was too strong for him, a better wrestler, whatever, but that's why I would like to see the rematch.

Win or lose, I think this is the fight to make and possibly (and hopefully), that will be GSP's announcement in this coming conference. Hendricks rematch, then retirement win or lose.
 
#30 ·
...This is just too odd. GSP has been mentally on target ever since he won the belt back years ago. He's getting like Anderson was after Weidman KO'd him. Weird. Unpredictable. Flip-flopping. I think GSP's competitive drive is too great for him to walk out now. If anything, GSP would want to retire without any doubts left in his mind or the fans. I'm sure Georges will take some time, gather himself and fight again. I seriously doubt Dana will let him off the hook that easily...
 
#32 ·
the way this is playing out makes it seem like Dana is desperately tyring to talk GSP into not retiring and GSP really hasn't made up his mind yet. He's on the fence thinking he'll probably retire but not 100% sure and he's told Dana he'll rematch Hendricks but only half-heartedly agreed.

If GSP has any sense he'll retire now, that fight with Hendricks was a blessing in disguise, all the signs should be setting off alarm bells in his head. He's broken the records, he's fought everyone and now it's time to quit on top instead of getting brain damage. GSP just isn't phsyically capable of hurting Hendricks and the next fight probably would take a few years off his life knowing GSP he'd get hurt but be skilled enough to evade for a while resulting in serious brain damage. God I hope that doesn't happen. The writing is on the wall, he eeks out a win and he'll get murdered in a rematch, hopefully he resists Dana's silver tongue.
 
#39 ·
My problem is this convenient excuse that GSP is mentally checked out instead of his opponents are just that good where back only a few years ago GSP could make a sandwich and beat his opponents.

His last 3 opponents marked up GSP because they weren't one dimensional or older gen fighters. He dominated nick diaz but ended up still looking like crap, he dominated condit but he still nearly got finished and banged up and well hendricks fight speaks for itself.

This is exactly like the anderson silva fanboys not being about to fathom that their god can look mortal yes there are actually decent enough fighters out there to match them.
 
#40 ·
My problem is this convenient excuse that GSP is mentally checked out instead of his opponents are just that good where back only a few years ago GSP could make a sandwich and beat his opponents.
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This is exactly like the anderson silva fanboys not being about to fathom that their god can look mortal yes there are actually decent enough fighters out there to match them.
Why and how it MUST be one thing or another? I can clearly see the two bold situations going on altogether.
Motivation tend to decrease along the years (specially if you are on top for ages) and competition level tends to always evolve and we can see that, so, this can very well be the point those lines are crossing on that graphic for GSP and Anderson as well, as for many other not that celebrated fighters, by the final part of their careers.
 
#43 ·
Yea I heard that too and that is what I expect. At first read I thought it was some big held presser to announce something.

The WW division was moving so nicely it seems like it his a wall. Off decision. Injury to Hendricks. Retirement talk from GSP. Maia loses. Condit/Brown canceled.
 
#58 ·
Apologies for the double post.

Further to the above, it's not that I even dislike Johny Hendricks. Frankly, he's a tremendous fighter and very exciting to watch. But he's a hypocrite and he deserves to be called out and given some flack. All I ever hear from Hendricks himself is that he doesn't talk smack, and he lets his hands do the talking. And yet all he did for a year prior to his fight with GSP was run his mouth about how St. Pierre was ducking him. All he did during the lead-up to their fight was talk about how he'd smash GSP in a wrestling match. And all he's done after the fight is talk about how GSP should want to retire and avoid fighting him a second time.

Johny Hendricks is the worst type of hypocrite. He claims to be a humble person who doesn't talk trash, yet it's more than apparent that he's a very bitter man whom talks nothing but trash. I'd have more respect for Hendricks if he embraced the fact that he's human and prone to bouts of bitterness, anger, and smack talk. Instead he claims to be the salt of the earth. So while I don't hate or dislike Johny Hendricks by any stretch, of course I'm going to call him out on his BS. I did the same with Jon Jones when he was pretending to be some God fearing, meek, and humble individual. I would much prefer that fighters be open, honest, and true to themselves. Anything else feels forced and fake, and Hendricks often comes across as fake with his self proclaimed "quiet man" persona. He's never passed up an opportunity to run down St. Pierre. I don't know that Hendricks knows about respect.
 
#62 ·
Belt being vacated would suck. I sat through so many boring GSP fights rooting for him to lose, and now he might just walk away for a bit? The next title fight will feel like an interim title fight if he is not in it. Plus these days it feels like fights involving Bones GSP and Silva are the ones with a big fight feel so now that would be 1/3 gone in my book.
 
#100 ·
Plus these days it feels like fights involving Bones GSP and Silva are the ones with a big fight feel so now that would be 1/3 gone in my book.
Add this thread link to your book. :thumbsup:
http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/152385-unofficial-2013-fight-year-poll.html

Go teach, be a movie star, anything but getting brain damage when you can't keep up with the best any more.
The guy arguably lost one fight(I thought JH edged, but still didn't take the W) to a strong and motivated #1 contender and all of a sudden he "can't keep up with the best any more"? Come on, man...GSP is in a 12 fights win streak and your post looks like it is referring to Shogun's late record.

Hendricks had his number
No, he was ultra prepared, I reckon, but the way the fight was close, to state Hendricks had GSP number is a huge stretch. Cain had JDS's number for a good reference of the expression.

He would get knocked out. See Marquardt vs Maia.
That was Kickboxer Maia, TBH.
 
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