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Nick Diaz: St-Pierre’s anti-PED stance ‘sounds like old Lance Armstrong’

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Former UFC title challenger Nick Diaz discusses Georges St-Pierre’s comments about his decision to fight Anderson Silva at 185-pounds, as well as the Canadian’s anti-PED stance.

While it has been well over a year-and-a-half since Nick Diaz faced then-welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre in the main event of UFC 158, it appears the Stockton native still carries a certain amount of animosity towards the former champ.

In his debut appearance on The MMA Hour, Diaz discussed a variety of topics, yet focused on several comments made by St-Pierre with regards to his upcoming fight against Anderson Silva at UFC 183. GSP had stated that he was not convinced that Diaz's decision to fight Silva at 185-pounds was an intelligent one.

Unimpressed with the suggestion, Diaz immediately responded on the show, "How the f**k does he know?"

While Diaz did not delve into why he is not concerned about the size difference between himself and Silva, he offered GSP some advice: Either step into my shoes, or your opinion is invalid.

"Who knows, maybe I have a harder time making weight than old Georges does," Diaz added. "The fact of the matter is you don't know what the f*** you're talking about until you're actually the guy in the driver's seat," Diaz said. "So you can f***in' run your mouth, or you know, you can be the ball and do what you got to do.

"But I don't know, I don't go ahead and give my opinion on what I think fighters should've done or would've done, because I'm not them. You don't know what's what, you don't know all the details of what's what. But if he's going to have things to say, just say what he wants to say."

For Nick, the decision to face Silva was one that required little consideration.

"I'm not fanatical about being an MMA fighter," he explained. "I'll fight the right fight if I get the right opportunity."

While the topic of discussion turned towards PED regulation and the French-Canadian's public stance on the matter, Diaz interrupted Helwani mi-sentence to blurt out, "Did they finally catch him for steroids?"

Following a quick recap of St-Pierre's anti-PED stance, Diaz made one simple comment that summed up his thoughts on the matter.

"Sounds like old Lance Armstrong."
To be fair, when GSP made those comments on Chael's podcast, he was answering a question Chael asked, he wasn't just throwing a statement out there. Also, GSP only said good things about Nick, even comments favoring him to win if he can take the fight into deep waters. The weight comment was the only thing you could take away as a negative comment, which in context, wasn't all that negative.
 
#3 ·
Armstrong had the most sophisticated and elaborate set up when it comes to doping and even formed a charity to fight cancer based off lies.

There may not be a bigger piece of trash on the planet than Armstrong.
 
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I lived in Austin (where Armstrong lives) when that was going down.
The guy is an absolute scumbag for sure. He deserves every single bit of shit he gets.

Nick is just bitter because he spent so much time making an ass out of himself talking shit about GSP and then got completely embarrassed. I hadn't been that satisfied after an MMA fight since Cain/JDS II.

That being said, if it does come out that GSP did infact dope, I will take back every bad thing I've said about Nick and proclaim him genius supreme. We've seen seemingly untouchable guy fall, Armstrong, Woods, Favre. It's not out of the question. I still want to know if dirt could ever be found on Jordan or Gretzky.
 
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Ummm Jordan has a known serious gambling problem. He's also another huge douche bag the guy couldn't even accept the hall of fame without shitting on people. No clue about Gretzk probably cheated on his wife like every other pro athlete.

Also GSP is juicing or was juicing. He's just a smart man. So he won't ever be dumb enough to get caught like say a Vitor.
Wasn't aware of Jordan's gambling problem as I don't follow basketball, but damn I stand corrected. Looked it up and you're right. I thought at worst he was just a bad NBA team owner who smoked cigars like Marlboro's.

Why do you think GSP was or is juicing?
 
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Wasn't aware of Jordan's gambling problem as I don't follow basketball, but damn I stand corrected. Looked it up and you're right. I thought at worst he was just a bad NBA team owner who smoked cigars like Marlboro's.

Why do you think GSP was or is juicing?
In Jordan's defense the Hornets are a somewhat respectable playoff contender nowadays with Jefferson, Walker, and Stephenson. Took a long time but they're getting better.




Bah, he cheated but that's not quite worth all the value you're assigning it.
Had he just cheated that'd be a fair statement, but Armstrong ruined peoples lives and is a pathological liar, what he did goes way beyond PEDs.
 
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Believe it or not I did a lot of work with LiveStrong after all the stuff with Lance went down. I worked in the public sector and know all the kinds of shady business practices and lies that Armstrong did and told. I never met the guy, but I know for a fact he is a piece of shit who deserves every bit of bad thing that comes to him.
 
#16 ·
Back on topic... I like Diaz but let's not forget he was quick to comment on Anderson in the Weidman fights and how he wasn't "throwing enough punches." He's just irritated at Georges cause didn't know the context in which he made those comments. Rematch anyone?
 
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Funny thing about Lance was that he tested positive for PEDs several times going way back to the 90's. It's just that his lawyers were good enough to discredit and suppress those results for the most part until it all blew up in his face a few years back. If you look through the archives you'll see reports in French & other foreign media that Lance had pissed hot in his doping control tests during his cycling career. He failed the drug tests, but his lawyers were good enough to get the results tossed and/or buried.

With GSP it's completely different. He's never failed a drug test. Period.
 
#27 ·
He Said/She Said not He Said/All those people said.

But you are right Michael Jordan is not a child molester or Hitler he is however a guy who did this.

http://dailysnark.com/6-epic-teammate-bullying-incidents-sports/

One of the more ridiculous Jordan bullying stories is when he punched Steve Kerr during practice for no reason other than the fact that he was Michael Jordan and he felt like it. What was Steve Kerr going to do in retaliation? Exactly….. NOTHING. The odds that Chris Brown will actually beat up a man one day are better than Steve Kerr punching back His Airness. Ok, maybe not. But if Kerr swung back, he would have been on the next plane to Cleveland to play for the Cavs and, even worse, forced live in Cleveland.
Also rumor is 51 year old Michael Jordan is cheating on his new wife with 25 year old former child protege Michelle Wie.

Lance Armstrong cheated in a sport where everyone "cheats" with rules that seem to be arbitrary anyways.
 
#29 ·
He Said/She Said not He Said/All those people said.

But you are right Michael Jordan is not a child molester or Hitler he is however a guy who did this.

http://dailysnark.com/6-epic-teammate-bullying-incidents-sports/



Also rumor is 51 year old Michael Jordan is cheating on his new wife with 25 year old former child protege Michelle Wie.

Lance Armstrong cheated in a sport where everyone "cheats" with rules that seem to be arbitrary anyways.
Ok I read a little bit more on him and you've got me convinced, Jordan is a douche and not a great sportsman at all.

I still maintain Armstrong was bigger, he did more than cheat and take steroids (and bending the rules is a lot different to taking a boatload of steroids, so I don't buy the whole "in a sport with arbitrary rules" bit). He set up a fake cancer charity, threatened other cyclists into steroids, and whistleblowers into silence. It's criminal, way beyond's jordan's general toxicity.

I almost hope Roy Nelson takes steroids to challenge the idea its possible to tell who is using via eyeball check.
Tim Sylvia already did that.

But I wouldn't belittle the eyeball check entirely. No one claims they can detect anyone who's taken steroids based on looks, guys like Tim Sylvia, Chris Leben etc. certainly don't look the part. What they do claim is that the ones that CAN be seen as obvious dopers almost always ARE. So it's not that eyeball test can catch all dopers, it's the ones that it CAN catch are pretty accurate.

I don't put GSP on the list but honestly, people were screaming obvious about Baroni, Sherk, Overeem, Randelman etc. long before they got caught, it was beyond obvious. The bulging veins, overgrown heads/teeth/bone structures, roid rage, tremendous muscle gains in a short time, all dead giveaways.
 
#32 ·
Most of that has nothing to do with peformance enhancement.

It violates the first (performance enhancement) because of its ability to decrease anxiety and fear, and potentially to improve some types of oxygenation and concentration.
^^^is the only condition that relates to performance enhancement, and even this is highly debatable. Certainly you cannot show me the same level of scientific proof that it improves an athletes' performance (less fear? really?) the same way we can measure muscular hypertrophy and RBC count that various anabolic steroids have been shown to promote. Do we have peer-reviewed data from sports psychologists demonstrating that athletes gain a psychological advantage from marijuana use? Seriously, if you have a journal subscription that I don't and are up to date on the literature, feel free to show me.

Also, that last paragraph is basically them admitting that they aren't even sure it's a big deal.
 
#33 ·
Most of that has nothing to do with peformance enhancement.



^^^is the only condition that relates to performance enhancement, and even this is highly debatable. Certainly you cannot show me the same level of scientific proof that it improves an athletes' performance (less fear? really?) the same way we can measure muscular hypertrophy and RBC count that various anabolic steroids have been shown to promote. Do we have peer-reviewed data from sports psychologists demonstrating that athletes gain a psychological advantage from marijuana use? Seriously, if you have a journal subscription that I don't and are up to date on the literature, feel free to show me.

Also, that last paragraph is basically them admitting that they aren't even sure it's a big deal.
How many conditions you need?

Your overall performance will be dictated by muscular capacity (hardware) and brain management (software). Any substance that will alter your natural perception of reality to make you more relaxed will enhance your performance by decreasing your anxiety and helping you to overcome fear, yes. That's what cannabis will do to you. The explanation couldn't be more clear.

Are you really trying to argue people won't be more prone to do things when they are high rather then when they aren't? Really?
Looks like evidences are only good enough to you when you can see them under a microscope. Do we need an official research for that?
OK, then. Knock yourself out:

"THC And Fear: How Marijuana May Help PTSD Patients Reduce Anxiety"
http://www.medicaldaily.com/thc-and-fear-how-marijuana-may-help-ptsd-patients-reduce-anxiety-265853
 
#38 ·
As someone who smokes pot I can say it very much can be a performance enhancer. It blocks the muscle pain while training and makes it possible to push yourself further. Personally it makes about a 50 pound difference in deadlift and 30 pound difference in squat, I get why it's a banned substance. Unfair advantage over those who don't smoke and it's illegal.
 
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