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#1 ·
It was argued that it was somewhat of a premature stoppage. I personally thought that it certainly could have gone for a little while longer. Ivan wasn't slammed that hard and he did seem to withstand the hammer fists.
He looked a bit dazed after though.
 
#102 ·
I think Heurta is being pampered because he's the pretty poster boy for the ufc. He should be given an actual ranked lightweight next.


(btw, he has fought and lost to Guiliard already but it was ruled a nc because Guiliard was greased. Greased or no greased, Heurta got his face smashed in).
 
#104 ·
pauly_j said:
I think Heurta is being pampered because he's the pretty poster boy for the ufc. He should be given an actual ranked lightweight next.


(btw, he has fought and lost to Guiliard already but it was ruled a nc because Guiliard was greased. Greased or no greased, Heurta got his face smashed in).

Huerta is being built up he aint being protected ffs you step in the ring and get your face smashed and then say yep they are going easy. Huerta hasnt asked for a Title shot he knows he aint ready just yet.
 
#105 ·
pauly_j said:
(btw, he has fought and lost to Guiliard already but it was ruled a nc because Guiliard was greased. Greased or no greased, Heurta got his face smashed in).

So he didnt really lose then. Besides, sounds like ya wouldnt mind seeing them square off again!?

Both fighters have come along way since then and I think it would be a good matchup
 
#106 ·
i think kenny florian vs roger huerta would be a great fast paced fight. both guys have good stand ups, i'd give the nod to kenny in this fight. kenny's leg kicks are hard to deal with.
 
#109 ·
Truuuax said:
Guida and Huerta would be a freakin wicked fight, I would pay top dollar to see them go at it.
I agree. Both guys come out and give it all. What a war this would be. I like both fighters but I like Guida more and I think he would take this. Guida had bad luck but now thats all behind him with his win over Maximus. Guida be split decison tko rd 3.
 
#110 ·
IF crocop loses...

Who do you see him fighting next? If he loses to Kongo, he would have fought
-Eddie Sanchez (W)
-Gabe Gonzaga (L)
-Cheick Kongo (L)

I began thinking, who would the UFC put him up against for his next fight? Would we see him fight another 'no name' or would they just put him in bigger fights. And if they do put him in a big fight, would he have deserved it? Who would the 'no name' be? Who would the 'big fight' be?

IMO, if Crocop loses to Kongo, casual MMA fans and UFC watchers will seriously lose interest in him. Having said that, he would have another 3 fights in his contract which should be enough to 're-build' him up for the casual fans and eventually put him in a big fight or possibly a title fight. I think that if he loses against Kongo, the UFC will put him in an 'Eddie Sanchez-esque' fight and then put him in a bigger fight right away, eventually putting him in the huge fight they wanted since they signed him.

Let me get some things crystal clear first.
-Replies along the line of 'HURRRRR BUT CROCOP WONT LOSE HURRRR' are not welcome, this is a hypothetical situation.
-I am aware that Crocop will most likely win against Kongo
-I am not saying that Crocop is 'done' or that he isnt a skilled fighter.
-I am not saying that a loss to Kongo would end his career
-I am not insulting him
-I respect him as a fighter
 
#112 ·
If he loses to Kongo, then his next opponent would have to be someone further down the pecking order than Kongo. Having watched the build up to UFC75 last night and Mirko's interveiw, it does seem like he is now taking UFC seriousley, which he wasn't before. He now has his own cage to practise with and is trying elbows, lets hope we see a much improved Mirko.
 
#118 ·
IF (and thats a big if) he loses dana will throw an unknown with a slightly impressive record against him in the hopes cro cop will win.

personally, i think cro cop should have been in big fights from the beggining. he is a very expeirenced fighter and has nothing to prove, if general ufc fans don't know him its their fault for only following one mma organisation. after the kongo fight i hope dana grows some balls and puts cro cop in big fights regardless of the outcome.

cro cop fights i wanna see before his ufc tenure is done with.

cro cop vs tim sylvia
cro cop vs randy couture
cro cop vs andrei arlovski
cro cop vs brandon vera
cro cop vs fedor II
cro cop vs fedor III (this would be the biggest trilogy in the history of mma, well in my eyes anyway)
 
#123 ·
*sigh*
I really didn't think I had to repeat this. THIS IS NOT A THREAD SAYING KONGO WILL WIN, I AM NOT SAYING CC WILL LOSE, ALL POSTS SAYING 'BUT HE WONT LOSE' ARE NOT WELCOME

I really thought I made this clear in my original post.
 
#124 ·
If Cro Cop loses I think his next fight will be against someone in the top 10. Someone who's a contender but is still working his way up:

I can see it going against Tim Sylvia.

AA - not really. AA's won a few in a row and he's looking for a a title shot. 1 or 2 more wins and he'll get his title shot. Not really fair to give him Cro Cop, as Cro Cop lost 2 in a row (that's *IF* he loses against Kongo).

Big Nog - nope. he'd be a few notches above Crop cop if Cro cop loses. 1 or 2 more wins for Nog and he might have a title shot. Not fair to give him Cro Cop if Cro cop loses.

Brandon Vera - I can slightly see them giving Vera Cro Cop if he loses against Kongo. But not likely.

The guy I think that's going to get Cro cop if he loses against Kongo is still Tim Sylvia. He's slightly under Vera at the moment, but good enough to fight Cro Cop and not get murdered.

If Cro Cop loses, he should still fight a top 10 guy. But a guy near the bottom 10.
 
#125 ·
Biowza said:
*sigh*
I really didn't think I had to repeat this. THIS IS NOT A THREAD SAYING KONGO WILL WIN, I AM NOT SAYING CC WILL LOSE, ALL POSTS SAYING 'BUT HE WONT LOSE' ARE NOT WELCOME

I really thought I made this clear in my original post.
whatz are u talkin' about? cro cop is going to kick kongo in the head an send him to the hospital. remember, he is an angry cro cop and you know how he kicks extra harder when he's angry and stuff. how dare you say that kongo will win! cro cop is the king of kicking and you know it. he will win this kicking kontest.






























LOL, i just had to say it :p
 
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