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What is next for Chuck

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#1 ·
Do you forsee anyone taking on Chuck anytime soon, who is left really? Tito? Forrest?
 
#10 ·
The Don said:
Well I do not think he is ready for chuck yet, looks like he has lots of potential to get alot better from what I have seen.
I agree Forrest is the future in a few years he will be great but at the moment hed be annhiliated by Chuck it would be Rich Franklin vs Nathan Quarry all over again it would end the same way too
 
#15 ·
donttap said:
Do you think that by the time someone is ready to take down Chuck he will be passed his prime?
Maybe or maybe not. There certainly isn't anyone right now that can stand with Chuck, regardless of what Brandon Vera thinks.

Chuck is definitely the most dominant Lightheavyweight I've ever watched, plus he's just destroyed some of the best in the business. He's got a hell of a resume.
 
#16 ·
IronMan said:
Maybe or maybe not. There certainly isn't anyone right now that can stand with Chuck, regardless of what Brandon Vera thinks.

Chuck is definitely the most dominant Lightheavyweight I've ever watched, plus he's just destroyed some of the best in the business. He's got a hell of a resume.
I am assuming that you are talking about in the UFC only, because there are pleanty of 205 lb fighters out there that can stand with Chuck right now. For example...

Rua
Silva
Jackson
Vovchanchyn
Lil Nog
Rutten (If he cuts down to 205)
Rizzo (If he cut down to LHW, even though I know you think he would lose)

That is just naming a few of the more known fighters at 205 who could stand with Liddell.
 
#18 · (Edited)
IronMan said:
Maybe or maybe not. There certainly isn't anyone right now that can stand with Chuck, regardless of what Brandon Vera thinks.
Watch them both fight again,
and again,
and again.

If you still think the same thing, you don't know fighting.

But then again, if you see my blog, I might be bias.
 
#19 ·
Within the UFC Vera is the only person even close to being a threat and he really isn't one he's just the only person close. Outside of the UFC as mentioned there are a lot of contenders but I still don't think anyone is better. Silva used to be but has lost a step in his last few fights.
 
#20 ·
USMCgrappler said:
Watch them both fight again,
and again,
and again.

If you still think the same thing, you don't know fighting.

But then again, if you see my blog, I might be bias.
I have watched them both fight and I have to tell you, Vera would get the crap kicked out of him if he stepped in the ring with Chuck and I have three reasons why:
1) Vera does all of his damage while standing from the clinch, Chuck is way too good a fighter and way to smart to clinch with a Muay Thai fighter.
2) Vera doesn't have the takedowns to put the fight on the ground. It was too hard for him to take down Scherner and, basically, Scherner sucks.
3) Chuck has KOs over strikers with faster hands than Vera, Randleman and Babalu for starters.


I am just talking about UFC, if we're talking all of MMA, I think he's number 3 or 4 (Rampage, Nog and Silva are probably better than Chuck).
 
#21 ·
Good points.

1. Chucks undisciplined striking will not be so easy to land against a more disciplined opponent with good defense and a better reach.

2. Scherner was a BJJ guy, Vera is a BJJ guy. Scherner is from Brazil, supposively the "better" grappler. Takedowns in that fight should not have been easy for either fighter. But they did occur, and the more disciplined, less experienced Vera was the better.

3. My theme is always discipline. Chuck has the KOs, but he is too undisciplined. He has only been as "great" as he is, in the Octagon. And I am not a believer that the light-heavyweights in the UFC are comparable to the other venues out there. I think Pride gave us a taste of that.

I am judging my opinion on this fight, not on Chuck, as much as I am on Vera. It is his impressive discipline that I like. Where have you seen him show weakness?

Lets see him take this pose against Vera! (lets see if the picture loads!)
 
#22 ·
USMCgrappler said:
Good points.

1. Chucks undisciplined striking will not be so easy to land against a more disciplined opponent with good defense and a better reach.

2. Scherner was a BJJ guy, Vera is a BJJ guy. Scherner is from Brazil, supposively the "better" grappler. Takedowns in that fight should not have been easy for either fighter. But they did occur, and the more disciplined, less experienced Vera was the better.

3. My theme is always discipline. Chuck has the KOs, but he is too undisciplined. He has only been as "great" as he is, in the Octagon. And I am not a believer that the light-heavyweights in the UFC are comparable to the other venues out there. I think Pride gave us a taste of that.

I am judging my opinion on this fight, not on Chuck, as much as I am on Vera. It is his impressive discipline that I like. Where have you seen him show weakness?

Lets see him take this pose against Vera! (lets see if the picture loads!)
Firstly, Vera beat scherner standing up, which is proof that Scherner is a bad fighter and that Vera has no takedowns.

Chuck has beaten pride lightheavies, in case you've forgotten. He beat Babalu (3 minutes until KO) and Belfort (with a clear decision). He also beat Randleman. I think it's fair to say that he's beaten more disciplined fighters than Vera.
 
#24 ·
Eminem said:
ANd he knocked out Overeem(He's not a great fighter but a striker)
Yeah, he's KO'd alot of guys. I was on the shortlist, but here's the whole list of the guys Chuck iced:
Paul Jones
Randleman
Mezger
Babalu
Overeem
Tito
Vernon White
Couture
Horn
Couture

Here's Vera's list:
Andre Mussi
Scherner
Justin Eilers

That's not even a close call.
 
#26 ·
Sub By Armbar said:
Really? Damn, and here I thought that I had bet on Franklin.

Yet another person who goes around making generalized f***ing statements that are absolute bulls**t.

If you don;t agree with other peoples posts try ignoring them,life is too short to get pissed over something like this. BTW, right or wrong ,everyone else is entitled to their opinion.
 
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