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Tito Still Not Ready For Liddell

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#1 ·
I know that Tito looked great last night, but there is no way that a fight with Liddell would take the same path. As good as Tito looked, I still say he's no match for Liddell.
 
#352 ·
Cbingham said:
First off I know exactly who Dan Henderson is, I like Dan Henderson but I also know that he hasnt done shit in a while, and most of his wins came from inferior fighters. Go take a gander at his record.

Second, go look on any MMA ranking poll. Chuck is always at #1

here is one, MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

here is two, lhw

here is three, MMANEWS.COM

How many more do you want?

That link I provided in my last post clearly explained how Pride works, they put B sometimes C level fighters in front of superior competition for national pride, not to see who the better fighter is, of course you chose to ignore that, and say its just bashing on Pride's first US event! haha you are a fool and you weed out the FACTS that damage your arguement! And that web site was not "random" that came from MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More, I dont know how much more reliable it can get. So do me and everyone else a favor and shut up until you actually have something worthwhile to say. Instead of just calling me a nuthugger, haha, what the hell is a nuthugger anyway, that is the most generic nerd insult along with calling someone a newby! It just shows that you have nothing to say.

first off you called henderson a nobody now you like him make up your ****ing mind and he hasnt done shit in a while?? hes top dogg at 183 over in pride and has a good chance against anderson silva and hasnt fought good fighters? the guys fought carlos newton, nog, babalu, renzo gracie, ninja are they all shit then? second those are just website predictions YOUR NOT EVEN ARGUEING ABOUT FIGHT STATS so if i found a site that ranked wanderlei higher than chuck would you shut the **** up? and third instead of using nuthugger how bout i put it this way U LICK UFC BALLLSSSS and so do all those shitty websites you listed
 
#354 ·
aznmaniac0909 said:
first off you called henderson a nobody now you like him make up your ****ing mind and he hasnt done shit in a while?? hes top dogg at 183 over in pride and has a good chance against anderson silva and hasnt fought good fighters? the guys fought carlos newton, nog, babalu, renzo gracie, ninja are they all shit then? second those are just website predictions YOUR NOT EVEN ARGUEING ABOUT FIGHT STATS so if i found a site that ranked wanderlei higher than chuck would you shut the **** up? and third instead of using nuthugger how bout i put it this way U LICK UFC BALLLSSSS and so do all those shitty websites you listed
He said Wandy Silva and Fedor are overrated.... I think that says enough in that statement alone lol.
 
#356 ·
aznmaniac0909 said:
first off you called henderson a nobody now you like him make up your ****ing mind and he hasnt done shit in a while?? hes top dogg at 183 over in pride and has a good chance against anderson silva and hasnt fought good fighters? the guys fought carlos newton, nog, babalu, renzo gracie, ninja are they all shit then? second those are just website predictions YOUR NOT EVEN ARGUEING ABOUT FIGHT STATS so if i found a site that ranked wanderlei higher than chuck would you shut the **** up? and third instead of using nuthugger how bout i put it this way U LICK UFC BALLLSSSS and so do all those shitty websites you listed
Yeah, I like Dan Henderson, but he is no-longer any top dog.
And what "fight stats" are you talking about? Once again you present no actuall arguement. Good luck findind a credible poll, that has Vanderlei ranked over Chuck. I have heard of ONE but never seen it, it probably does not exsist. So you keep on calling me names, it just further reveals how much you don't know. And by the way, those are NOT "predictions" at all, those are rankings, most are voted on by fighters and people in the business, each poll tells you who votes on them under "pollsters". So again you are WRONG, and your only arguement is to insult my sexuality. Also I wasnt aware that the UFC had a set of balls, whats that about? Even your insults are childish.
 
#358 ·
BigBanda said:
He said Wandy Silva and Fedor are overrated.... I think that says enough in that statement alone lol.
Prove me wrong then jackass. I told you why I think that, all you have done is insult me for thinking it. That tells me that you don't even know why you think they are so damn good. PRESENT ME WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, SOME FACTS< HELL ANYTHING!
 
#359 ·
Cbingham said:
Prove me wrong then jackass. I told you why I think that, all you have done is insult me for thinking it. That tells me that you don't even know why you think they are so damn good. PRESENT ME WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, SOME FACTS< HELL ANYTHING!
Why should I even have to explain why you are wrong in that statement especially regarding Fedor. Anyone with half a brain that knows MMA would not call Fedor overrated.. thats completely absurd!
 
#360 ·
Cbingham said:
Yeah, I like Dan Henderson, but he is no-longer any top dog.
And what "fight stats" are you talking about? Once again you present no actuall arguement. Good luck findind a credible poll, that has Vanderlei ranked over Chuck. I have heard of ONE but never seen it, it probably does not exsist. So you keep on calling me names, it just further reveals how much you don't know. And by the way, those are NOT "predictions" at all, those are rankings, most are voted on by fighters and people in the business, each poll tells you who votes on them under "pollsters". So again you are WRONG, and your only arguement is to insult my sexuality. Also I wasnt aware that the UFC had a set of balls, whats that about? Even your insults are childish.
are you for real? dan henderson is still WW champ i believe and the fight stats im talkin about are excatly what you are lacking like other people would argue chuck has great stand and has beat so and so while others would say but tito has great GnP and has beat so and so INSTEAD you argue well this site says so and so and it CANT BE WRONG HAHAHHAHAHAHHA your a ****ing joke :laugh: and if you want me to put it in yet another way ill do it just for you. you are biased against pride and strongly favor ufc wiether they are actually superior or not. happy?????
 
#361 ·
Cbingham said:
Prove me wrong then jackass. I told you why I think that, all you have done is insult me for thinking it. That tells me that you don't even know why you think they are so damn good. PRESENT ME WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, SOME FACTS< HELL ANYTHING!
you mean like all the knowledge you have provided such as YA YOU THINK WANDERLEI SILVA IS BETTER WELL I DONT I THINK HES OVERRATED AND IM GOING TO FIND A BUNCH OF BIASED SITES THAT SAY CHUCK IS BETTER HAHHAHAHAH
 
#364 ·
aznmaniac0909 said:
are you for real? dan henderson is still WW champ i believe and the fight stats im talkin about are excatly what you are lacking like other people would argue chuck has great stand and has beat so and so while others would say but tito has great GnP and has beat so and so INSTEAD you argue well this site says so and so and it CANT BE WRONG HAHAHHAHAHAHHA your a ****ing joke :laugh: and if you want me to put it in yet another way ill do it just for you. you are biased against pride and strongly favor ufc wiether they are actually superior or not. happy?????

Dude I don't even know what you are talking about anymore. The rankings I listed were pertaining to the Vanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell arguement going on. I have posted plenty of times about Tito's and Chuck's strenghts and weaknesses. And I strongly favor the UFC BECAUSE they are superior.
So what is your point here? I really don't know.
 
#365 · (Edited)
aznmaniac0909 said:
you mean like all the knowledge you have provided such as YA YOU THINK WANDERLEI SILVA IS BETTER WELL I DONT I THINK HES OVERRATED AND IM GOING TO FIND A BUNCH OF BIASED SITES THAT SAY CHUCK IS BETTER HAHHAHAHAH
Damn this is a weak argument. Biased site? You are the joke, those are legitimate MMA ranking web sites, what are you talking about “biased sites”? He has clearly presented why he thinks Silva and Fador are over rated yet you chose to ignore that and say he JUST said Silva is over rated in your post, which is not the case. Stop making things up trying to debate with some one who is giving you actually reason as to what he thinks.
 
#366 ·
Cbingham said:
Dude I don't even know what you are talking about anymore. The rankings I listed were pertaining to the Vanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell arguement going on. I have posted plenty of times about Tito's and Chuck's strenghts and weaknesses. And I strongly favor the UFC BECAUSE they are superior.
So what is your point here? I really don't know.
Are you really that blind or just biased against Pride??? I watch UFC more than Pride which most do in the states because it is more accessible. If you've ever watched Pride, whether it be PPV's or DVD's you would know that they have more depth in superior fighters... mainly in their HW and Middleweight classes. There is a damn good reason why ppl want to see Silva vs Chuck cause its the #1 and #2 ranked fighters for LHW's. Silva isnt some overrated fighter like you seem to think. The man already deserves respect for even facing CroCop(twice), he's beaten Fujita, Yoshida, Hendo, Sakuraba, Arona, Jackson, Nakamura. I dont see any HW's in the UFC that can beat CroCop or Fedor. Fedor has never even lost a fight, the only one that goes as a loss is because he was cut too bad. He's got impressive victories over CroCop, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita, Arona, Nog.... the list just goes on. Hey check this thread that was dedicated to your comments in the main forum I post in lol... MMA News Forums
 
#367 · (Edited)
Wanderlei Silva > Chuck Liddelll without question



Illl keeep it short and brief.... Wanderlei has beeen Pride MDW Champion for 4-5 years, he went undefeated at 205lbs for 5 years.... Only has 1 losss @ 205lbs in 5 + years

Chuck Liddell, UFC LHW Champion for 1 YR, Hasnt lost in 3 yrs...... get it ? got it ? good
 
#368 ·
Punishment 101 said:
Wanderlei Silva > Chuck Liddelll without question



Illl keeep it short and brief.... Wanderlei has beeen Pride MDW Champion for 4-5 years, he went undefeated at 205lbs for 5 years.... Only has 1 losss @ 205lbs in 5 + years

Chuck Liddell, UFC LHW Champion for 1 YR, Hasnt lost in 3 yrs...... get it ? got it ? good
Good points... that is why I want to see them hook up already, I hope we can see this in 2007. Do you think this thread will go on till December? haha
 
#371 ·
BigBanda said:
Are you really that blind or just biased against Pride??? I watch UFC more than Pride which most do in the states because it is more accessible. If you've ever watched Pride, whether it be PPV's or DVD's you would know that they have more depth in superior fighters... mainly in their HW and Middleweight classes. There is a damn good reason why ppl want to see Silva vs Chuck cause its the #1 and #2 ranked fighters for LHW's. Silva isnt some overrated fighter like you seem to think. The man already deserves respect for even facing CroCop(twice), he's beaten Fujita, Yoshida, Hendo, Sakuraba, Arona, Jackson, Nakamura. I dont see any HW's in the UFC that can beat CroCop or Fedor. Fedor has never even lost a fight, the only one that goes as a loss is because he was cut too bad. He's got impressive victories over CroCop, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita, Arona, Nog.... the list just goes on. Hey check this thread that was dedicated to your comments in the main forum I post in lol... MMA News Forums
Ok, first you keep saying that Pride has superior fighters. Well prove that to me. All the ones you list have records slam full of no-namers, All their divisions are slam full of no-names, new comers, and Japanese guys who are fighting for national pride. Those are some of the reasons I have listed. You have yet to list anything but oppinion, like "I don't see any HW in the UFC can beat Fedor or CroCop" <----that is pure oppinion my friend. TELL ME WHY. And Fedor LOST the fight to Kohsaka. IT IS A LOSS plain and simple, no matter what the situation. Now I respect your oppinions, but dont call me names because I disagree with your oppinions. Tell me why I am wrong. If you wish to debate you have to do just that, DEBATE! Not just call me names. seriously, stop saying they are superior until you can tell me why, stop saying Pride has more depth until you can show it to me. If I keep saying the world is flat, is it true? Thats what you are doing!
 
#372 ·
BigBanda said:
Are you really that blind or just biased against Pride??? I watch UFC more than Pride which most do in the states because it is more accessible. If you've ever watched Pride, whether it be PPV's or DVD's you would know that they have more depth in superior fighters... mainly in their HW and Middleweight classes. There is a damn good reason why ppl want to see Silva vs Chuck cause its the #1 and #2 ranked fighters for LHW's. Silva isnt some overrated fighter like you seem to think. The man already deserves respect for even facing CroCop(twice), he's beaten Fujita, Yoshida, Hendo, Sakuraba, Arona, Jackson, Nakamura. I dont see any HW's in the UFC that can beat CroCop or Fedor. Fedor has never even lost a fight, the only one that goes as a loss is because he was cut too bad. He's got impressive victories over CroCop, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita, Arona, Nog.... the list just goes on. Hey check this thread that was dedicated to your comments in the main forum I post in lol... MMA News Forums
And as for that forum you want me to see, I am not a member of that site, so post it here or email it to me.
 
#373 ·
Cbingham said:
Ok, first you keep saying that Pride has superior fighters. Well prove that to me. All the ones you list have records slam full of no-namers, All their divisions are slam full of no-names, new comers, and Japanese guys who are fighting for national pride. Those are some of the reasons I have listed. You have yet to list anything but oppinion, like "I don't see any HW in the UFC can beat Fedor or CroCop" <----that is pure oppinion my friend. TELL ME WHY. And Fedor LOST the fight to Kohsaka. IT IS A LOSS plain and simple, no matter what the situation. Now I respect your oppinions, but dont call me names because I disagree with your oppinions. Tell me why I am wrong. If you wish to debate you have to do just that, DEBATE! Not just call me names. seriously, stop saying they are superior until you can tell me why, stop saying Pride has more depth until you can show it to me. If I keep saying the world is flat, is it true? Thats what you are doing!
Well its obvious you arent gonna back down from what you believe but I just am shocked that you think someone like Fedor is overrated. That is like saying Michael Jordan is overrated.
 
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