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Which Whey to Go?

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#1 ·
Sorry for that corny joke, but I was really confused on which whey I should buy. As of right now, I want to gain more lean muscle and lose body fat. Is the Whey Isolate better for me or Whey Concentrate?
Also, I am about 213 pounds, only 190 in muscles, unfortunately, so is this the best thing to do: After each workout, consume about 50 grams of whey within 20 minutes of the workout?
Thanks!
 
#2 ·
ive heard theres exactly as much protein in a whey milkshake as there is in the toilet the next day.thats according to my dad hes a doctor.still though ive never taken the stuff so i dont know if it has benefits.
 
#3 ·
Thats only if you don't workout or put your body in the situation where it needs to repair its muscles. If your body doesn't need the protein (no muscles to repair after workout), then its just gonna filter it out and throw it away.
 
#4 ·
*First of all I'm definitely not an expert. Just giving an opinion with some experience.

I would say thats a fairly good plan. The isolate is better for what your looking for. It is for lack of better words "pure protein" nothing really more. Your gunna get the highest amount of protein compared to calories.

BUT

You should never treat proteins as a religion. its more like a science. Experiment. screw around a lil. For example. my personal shake is a scoop of isolate (majority of my protein), and a half scoop of weight gaining protein. (added calories). --- i use this shake because im 150lbs, 5'10". I'm trying to pack on about 10 pounds of LEAN muscle. So im doing this by increasing calories just enough to gain some mass without much of it turning to fat.

For you since your trying to cut some extra fat off, i would consider maybe just maybe like a scoop and a half of whatever isolate you choose. for the average isolate that should be more than enough protein and very little calories. take that two to three times a day and you should start noticing a difference.

Good Luck, Train Hard..
 
#6 ·
lol. your right. but really they are all very similar.

a really good one that i like is isoflex.
its probably the best value for your money.
not to expensive either.

if having problems finding it feel free to pm me. i have a couple more that i could give you.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Is it a good idea to lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time? Or Should I first lose fat and then gain muscles?

Thanks.
Neither, your first idea is like chasing 2 rabbits:losing both (in 99%+ of natural cases)

and the latter idea is the one to go if you reverse the order.
When you gain muscle, you will gain some fat too.
so, it would be better to gain muscle before aiming to lose fat (bulking and cutting)
 
#11 ·
So it would be best to eat healthy, lift and do cardio, and have a regular source of good protein to build muscles. And then I should just reduce my intake of protein and increase cardio, while still lifting every now and then.

Thats my take on it. Is it wrong/right?
 
#12 · (Edited)
could be better.

while still lifting every now and then.
: getting into a routine would be "right"

cardio on a bulk is only for health reasons
so yea.. you can do some limited low intensity cardio
if you're gaining too much fat then chances are your diet is poor, (not cardio)

you could be more specific: like posting your diet, how often you train+routine, so I can help you more.
I am about 213 pounds, only 190 in muscles,
you sure? that's pretty good.. about 10-11% bf at 213 pounds you would know more than seem to do (maybe just good genetics/bad measurement)
 
#13 ·
I will admit, nowadays my diet is kind of poor, mainly when I become stressed. Because of exams (stress), I eat a bit too much, and only at the end I realize that I've eaten more than I have to.

I will need to limit my calorie in-take to about 2500 calories. My diet consists of:
Breakfast- cereal (trail mix or cheerios) with 1-2% milk, banana and orange juice

Lunch: Taco Bell (About 2-4 times per week), but thats going to be limited down to 0 during the summer. More often than not, I have a light fish sandwich on multi-grain bread.

Dinner: Rice, my friend makes pretty nice indian curry from time to time so that as well, some chicken (about the size of a thigh), and some type of vegetable.

Between the meals, I sometimes have a Nature Valley bar, or a granola bar of some sort.

I know for a fact that around times like this (stress week), I tend to eat more servings than I have to, especially for dinner. Also, sometimes on a friday night, I would go with my friends to a restaraunt like Chile's and I intake a lot of calories that night.

This is my exercising schedule:
Mondays: Sprints for about 15 minutes and then upper body weightlifting

Tuesdays: about 10 minutes (1 mile) on the elliptical and then 30 minutes on a run, at an average of 6 MPH. In total, I accumlate about 40 minutes of cardio and about 4 miles of distance

Wednesdays: Same as Mondays

Thursdays: Same as Tuesdays

Fridays: Same as Mondays

Saturdays: Same as Tuesdays

Sundays: Either a light jog or just resting.




If you can help me or give me some advice on that, then thanks a lot! Really appreciated. I know my diet is where it's really lacking, especially when I am stressed during exam/finals weeks.
 
#14 ·
okay, there's no order to that diet

easy important changes/additions to your diet and questions:

you need more/better distributed protein in that diet(chicken/cottage cheese/steak/beef/fish(tuna,salmon etc)

lacks fat (oily fish(salmon, trout, mackerel..) you can supplement with flax seed or fish oil if you don't get much oily fish, eggs, beef, nuts/seeds)

when do you work out? (after what meal)

you should do some lower body weightlifting as well

are you active during the day?

I'd do the sprints on off days maybe (up the intensity of the weightlifting, big compound exercises, heavy weight, lower reps) those include the deadlift, squat, push press, bench press, another good additions are rows, chin/pull ups and others (depends on the person)
 
#15 ·
I don't have a set time where I work out. Most of the time, however, (3-5 days per week) I usually work out after lunch and before dinner, at around 3 PM. Other times, I workout and excercise either during the night, after 8 PM or in the morning, before 9 AM.

The reason to this is because of college...I mainly have classes during the morning times, and I wrokout or exercise as soon as I come home from school.

And you're right, I think I do need some order to my diet.
 
#17 ·
The reason to this is because of college...I mainly have classes during the morning times, and I wrokout or exercise as soon as I come home from school.
mornings and 3 pm sounds good. structure your diet around the time you work out at.

just some ideas:
you can boil eggs in morning, ziploc bag, eat between classes. or you can take a shaker, water + protein powder + oat powder + flax seed oil or w/e. 5-10 minute preparation, in a week it'll be a habit, and you'll be closer achieving the physique you're aiming for.
 
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