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Could Amir win the show?

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#1 ·
I think it's a big possibility he could win the whole thing! CB even said himself that Amir could give him the hardest time out of the 3. Amirs won 2 fights that he hadn't a chance to win...



Amir for TUF7 WINNER ;)
 
#4 ·
I don't like CB but I think he'll beat Amir with his wrestling. To be honest, I think Amir was the best possible match up for CB. It's clear that they want him in the finals. I think CB was just trying to come off as less of a douche by saying that Amir would be a tough fight for him. I think he knows that Tim could submit him and that he wouldn't be able to overpower Jesse.
 
#8 ·
Amir isn't winning the show. He has solid stand up the best left on the show but his submissions aren't good at all even though he's won two fights by submission they were terribly slow.

CB will take him down and pound him out. Amir is a good prospect should go to the WEC and devolop more but he's not ready to compete with guys like CB or Tim who are both UFC caliber MW's.
 
#9 ·
I disagree. I think Amir needs some work, but he's as good as 90% of the other TUFers that are now apart of the UFC.

You think his submissions aren't good. I find it funny that he has bad submissions, or even mediocre if I give you the benefit of the doubt, and yet he has won two of his amateur bouts by submission, as well as submitting the guy everyone thought was a beast.

I don't think he's a MW version of Big nog or anything, I just think his subs are definitely good enough...obviously.
 
#10 ·
Matt Brown was overhyped the guy hit hard but he didn't like getting hit and his ground game isn't good at all of his 6 losses 5 are by submission. Also the level of fighters fighting in Amateur MMA is often very low. His submission aren't very fluid at all.

And while his submission are good enough to catch the guys he's faced so far they aren't good enough to catch UFC level fighters. His stand up is probably good enough to hang with above average UFC strikers but he doesn't have the wrestling to keep fights on their feet. Look at what Gerald did to him CB is 10 times the wrestler Gerald is.
 
#12 ·
Matt Brown was overhyped the guy hit hard but he didn't like getting hit and his ground game isn't good at all of his 6 losses 5 are by submission. Also the level of fighters fighting in Amateur MMA is often very low. His submission aren't very fluid at all.

And while his submission are good enough to catch the guys he's faced so far they aren't good enough to catch UFC level fighters. His stand up is probably good enough to hang with above average UFC strikers but he doesn't have the wrestling to keep fights on their feet. Look at what Gerald did to him CB is 10 times the wrestler Gerald is.
Ok, I'll agree with that. For the reasons highlighted above, Amir reminds me of Cummo. Good Thai striking, but sub par TDD. However, Amir actually holds off takedowns for a decent while(see his fight to get on the show) and tries for submissions from his back. Also, while on his back he constantly throws elbows and punches doing damage.

Of course he isn't perfectly well rounded enough to be a top contender in the UFC, but he could hang with a lot of the guys out there right now.

Just a question, is CB 10X the wrestler as Gerald, or is CB simply more well rounded than Gerald and hence looks better? CB throws shots and tries to improve his position, whereas Gerald was content to stay in guard.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I thought it was odd that CB said Amir poses the most problems for him out of the three. I actually think this is the best matchup for him. Amir is a good striker but with barely any experience and an almost average ground game. CB will take him down at will which is a shame really because I wanted Amir to win it all. He's just entertaining with a good personality. It'd be funny as well because he has no professional fights under his belt.

Jesse on the other hand is strong with a good ground game and Tim has a good submission game. Amir has the least experience on the ground. He has average submissions but thats about it.

I hope he finds a way to win, though. I just don't see it happening.
 
#13 ·
No CB is a far bettter wrestler than Gerald. He is also much more well rounded but CB was an all american Gerald never made nationals.
 
#14 ·
I think Admir has a very real shot at winning the show. For as critical as he is about himself, and how humble he is, to the point of having the worst self-esteem of any fighter in the world.

He has incredible heart, is very unorthadox and has so many unique weapons he brings into the octagon.
 
#17 ·
However he beat two guys who really aren't big time fighters. Matt Brown is a guy who hits hard and does nothing else. Gerald is a good wrestler but does nothing else well.

Amir won 2 fights but neither was that impressive.
 
#22 ·
Yea he has. Not because of Matt Brown who is pretty horrible but Gerald is better than anyone CB faced. Nick Klein is a solid fighter but Gerald is better.

However CB is a much more talented fighter than Amir. He is a better wrestler and he has solid stand up and a solid submission game.
 
#23 ·
Matt Brown is a better fighter then both Klein and Cale, I'm sorry but Kleins half ass submission attempts were not impressive even if he almost caught CB in a few, dude has nothing else and is garbage as a fighter, as is Brown but I'd give a slight advantage to Brown as far as skill set. In fact Steve Byrnes is also better then both Klein and Cale and Amir had to fight him just to get in the house.
 
#24 ·
Matt Brown has some of the worst submission defense. He's lost 5 of his 6 fights by submission. Now I agree with Steve Byrnes however Amir hasn't once looked good in any of his fights. He looked Ok against Brown, looked bad against Gerald, and looked bad against Byrnes.

Facing solid fighters and having average performances doesn't impress me.
 
#25 ·
I disagree. Beating solid fighters is impressive. Solid fighters have a tendency to make their opponents look average. He still managed to win the fights and he has had the hardest road of anyone in the house thus far. I like Amir, his stand up is pretty good, he doesn't take himself to seriously and he finds ways to win fights. However, I don't think he can beat CB because I don't see CB having a problem taking him down and controlling him.

It seems that the UFC knows who they want to win before the season starts latley. Why not just give CB a contract in the UFC instead of having him fight below average guys to get in? Everyone there was on his nuts from the beggining, especially Dana. I guess they put him on the show to make people dislike him and tune into his fights to watch him get a beatdown.
 
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#26 ·
Actually I think the plan was to have a very talented group on this season of TUF since they tried to get both Jacare and Jake Rosholt two of the best MMA prospects in MMA's short history. Jacare's BJJ would be the best of anyone in the whole UFC and Rosholt has the best wrestling resume in MMA. CB was supposed to be the third best fighter on TUF but Jacare and Jake wanted to much money.

No doubt beating them is impressive but the way he beat them didn't impres me. His stand up is pretty good I agree but his ground game isn't. In fact I would say it's average at best.

I would say Amir would struggle in the UFC MW divison against almost anyone. But if they send him to WEC to get some expierence i think he could be a solid fighter.
 
#27 ·
Man, I think Amir has all the raw talents to be great. I agree though, the dude needs a lot more experience and a strong camp. You are totally undermining his performance since the guy has 0 pro fights and he's made it to the semi, that is impressive by itself.

Amir is stylistically the best match-up for CB, the only reason why CB said he's dangerous is because he's worried about getting caught like Gerald. Besides, Amir's TDD is not horrid, like Dante's was much worse. Amir's really good during the scramble.
 
#28 ·
For a guy with no fights he has been very impressive but that's not what I'm looking at. I'm looking at as a fighter ATM he is a good stand up guy with below average wrestling and a average ground game. His stand up ATM is good but not good enough to keep him in the UFC right now.

He needs a ton more expierence and could end up being an average UFC fighter.

But how will he beat CB if he couldn't stop Gerald from taking him down.
 
#29 ·
I agree. I think Amir would get tooled by almost anyone in the UFC MW division at the moment. They should really put him in the WEC and let him get a couple of fights under his belt and then see where he is at.
 
#31 ·
I think he will do better than Cael but I think he won't really put up much of a fight in the end because his submissions aren't going to catch CB. I do think he will work hard and won't quit but CB is a tough guy.
 
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