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This Randy/Lesnar fight has got me puzzled, lets break it down

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#1 ·
I have no idea what is going to happen in this fight. I have never been more confused or lost when it comes to picking a fight than I am with this one. I think Randy is going to win this but I have no idea how. I believe Lesnar will be the better wrestler and should be able to get Randy to the mat and on his back if he wants to. So if I have Randy winning this fight, is he gona win by a submission off his back?? I really dont see that happening. Do I see Randy putting Brock on his back and working some ground and pound?? No I really dont see that either. What about striking, will Randy outstrike Lesnar? Yea he will, but I see Lesnar taking him down as soon as that starts to happen. So what does this all mean?? Do I really have Lesnar beating Couture? I really dont know at this point but I wouldnt be shocked. This fight is 50/50 for me. But if I had to guess, Id say after losing 2 out of the first 3 rounds, Randy ends up on top of Brock in a scramble and ends up finishing Brock with strikes from half guard. I think if Randy can some how put Brock on his back he will make him look like a fish out of water. Especially in the late rounds, Lesnar may tire and Randy could outwork him.

I would like to hear a break down of this fight from you guys. i see alot of people picking Couture. I want to pick some of you guys' brains and se if Im missing something in my breakdown.
 
#4 ·
I don't see how Randy can win this fight on the ground. If he can keep the fight standing he could outscore Lesnar if he could avoid taking a big shot. If Lesnar lands a shot like he did on Herring then I don't see Randy being able to win it. On the other side, I think Lesnar will be able to take Randy down, but I don't know that I can see him finishing him short of a ref stoppage. It is a tough fight to call, physically Lesnar should be able to completely dominate Randy, and his wrestling might be just as good as Randy's. On the other hand nobody in this sport can gameplan like Randy, question is, how do you game plan for Lesnar with Randy's toolbag? Awfully hard to call but I'm leaning towards Lesnar.
 
#5 ·
This should be a really interesting fight.

Everything Randy does, Brock can do just as good or better.

Wrestling - advantage to Lesnar
Strength - Lesnar
Takedowns - Lesnar
KO Power - Lesnar

The biggest weakness Randy will be able to expose is Lesnar's lack of experience, especially on the ground. We've seen Randy take down some pretty big, strong dudes. But I'd imagine that trying to move Lesnar would be like trying to move a tree stump.

If Randy can get in Lesnar's face, get him up against the cage and work his clinch to set up a takedown then he could win the fight, same way he won against big tim.
 
#6 ·
i don't think randy can hurt lesnar standing frankly....i think if brock gets one takedown...the fights over...donkey kong GnP FTW

brock just needs to learn how to properly GnP from guard/half guard and he'll finish randy...if brock postures and blasts a straight right down the middle, is that blockable?
 
#12 ·
A submission is hardly out of the question. Randy has very underrated submission skills. He had a sweet ass anaconda choke on Van Arsdale a couple years back and grappled Jacare to a draw.

I could see Lesnar getting sloppy as the fight gets into the latter rounds and Randy slapping something on him or maybe taking his back.

But the more I think of this fight, the more and more I give Lesnar a good chance at winning the fight. Randy doesnt like fighting big strong wrestlers.
 
#15 ·
Randy will have to come up with a great gameplan for this fight, like he always does. The way I see Randy winning is with Lesnar on his back against the cage with Randy working the GnP from Lesnar's full or half gaurd. Or Lesnar with his back against the cage but on his feet and Randy working his dirty boxing.

Randy knows he's gotta use the cage to control a man as big as Lesnar and that is exactly what I see happening.
 
#17 ·
Nobody is gonna finish anyone in this fight. I see Randy winning this, and I see him employing the same technique he used against Gonzaga and Sylvia. He outworks the bigger fighter, clings on, uses his wrestling and super human strength to just hold on and chip away at the other guy.

Sure, Lesnar has phenomenal strength and wrestling, but this is MMA and I don't think he can quite put it all together the way Randy can. Plus, Brock doesn't have the same striking/top control/GnP as Ricco or Barnett, so I doubt he will have Couture in that kind of trouble.

Thus I see Randy winning a very hard fought and meticulous decision.
 
#18 · (Edited)
I certainly WANT Randy to win... But I don't see how.

I really hate Brock. :confused05:

I'll be very happy to see Randy win this, but I see a very anti-climactic battle here, with Randy getting pounded out early.

I don't necessarilly think Brock is the "better fighter", but as we all know, styles make fights. And his particular skillset and abilities are going to take Randy out of this fight early IMO.

I'm not putting any money on this fight, but if I were, it would be on Brock.
 
#19 ·
I'm just wondering if everyone is actually watching Brock's fights or just coming up with biased opinions based on whether they like him or not.

His wrestling isn't that good people. Watch his takedowns they aren't anything special and I don't see him getting Couture down.

Most of his takedowns came on crappy kicks from Herring. And one of them came on a shitty Judo throw. Herring actually stuffed one of his takedowns in round 2.

People are assuming Brock is a great wrestler because of his background and while he is very strong and a good wrestler he defiantly isn't great.

I think Randy will beat him and honestly ATM I don't think he is one of the 4 best wrestlers in the UFC HW divison.
 
#25 ·
I've said it before, but what I like so much about this fight is that anything can happen. Take a fight like Leben vs. Silva, pretty obvious what was going to happen. This fight, who knows, Brock could land a massive punch like he did on Herring, he could come raging like a madman with a flying knee, maybe Randy will shock us with a 10 second KO, who the hell knows, I know I can't wait to see how it goes down.
 
#26 ·
Randy will take a page from the Wanderlei Silva playbook and put the knees to Lesnar. Go right into the offensive from the moment the bell rings so that Brock doesn't get in the first punch, hit him with everything he's got from the very start and shatter Brock's confidence.
 
#27 ·
I see randy couture kicking the crap out of him. He wont go for the take down he will be using all of his grecco skills to keep it standing. Randy has been training with some great boxing coaches the last couple of yeats. Expect to see another showing like the tim sylvia fight. Brocks boxing skills are weak his mt skills are weaker. I bet randy will be hammering his legs with round houses.
 
#30 ·
People keep saying that Brock has the advantage in the wrestling department. I have to ask though....what kind of wrestling? Brock is a free style guy, Randy is world class Greco.

If Randy can get a good clinch, or bodylock...then the playing feild is leveled significantly imo. If it happens on the cage, then the advantage goes to Randy in my mind. If he can use the cage to disrupt Brocks balance, or perhaps get a trip, he can easily end up on top....and once that happens, it's going to be all randy all night....until the ref pushes him off that is.
 
#34 ·
not to mention randy has a more diverese wrestling backround freestyle, folkstyle, grecco and a few others. he has also competed at the world level in various forms of wrestling. I dont see him using his grecco so much though because grecco does favor the larger guy.

I see him using that wrestling to nullify brocks. I honestly see brock losing because of lack of experience. His grappeling is much different after mir but his striking is to wild. I think he will try to go for the take dow wont be able to get it in and randy will ko him.

KO first round Im calling it.
 
#36 · (Edited)
Ill take randy on this. Randy has the experience and this guy is a bloody genius when it comes to making and executing game plans. Im not going to lie, lesnar is bigger, stronger, faster (and this dude it ridiculously fast), better wrestler.

Also imo shane carwin is a better fighter than lesnar. They are the same size, carwin is a better striker,better gnp and better submissions. Carwin is a very decorated wrestler, not quite as much as lesnar but not a stretch by any means. I think randy will be ready for lesnar.
 
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