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UFC 89: BISPING vs. LEBEN
Date: 10/18/2008
Event Type: International Event
Location: The National Indoor Arena (Birmingham, England)​


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Main Card Bouts:


[16-1-0] Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben [18-4-0]

[13-0-0] Lyoto Machida vs. Thiago Silva [13-0-0]

[13-4-1] Keith Jardine vs. Brandon Vera [9-2-0]

[5-2-0] Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Luiz Cane [8-1-0]

[9-3-1] Paul Taylor vs. Chris Lytle [25-16-5]

[7-0-0] Paul Kelly vs. Marcus Davis [14-4-0]


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Preliminary Bouts:


[19-6-0] Dan Hardy vs. Akihiro Gono [28-12-7]

[9-0-0] Shane Carwin vs. Neil Wain [4-0-0]

[12-10-0] Jess Liaudin vs. David Bielkheden [12-6-0]

[10-2-0] Terry Etim vs. Sam Stout [13-4-1]

[10-5-0] Samy Schiavo vs. Per Eklund [12-3-1]

[15-2-0] David Baron vs. Jim Miller [11-1-0]


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On Saturday, October 18th, the UFC returns to the United Kingdom for UFC 89: BISPING vs. LEBEN, from The National Indoor Arena in Birmingham, England.

After dropping down to 185 lbs., Micheal "The Count" Bisping has absolutely steam rolled through his first two opponents. Now, he sets his sites on the heavy-handed striker, Chris "The Crippler" Leben in an explosive Middleweight match-up.

UFC 89: BISPING vs. LEBEN - Saturday, October 18th, live on SpikeTV from Birmingham, UK.
 
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#95 ·
I actually think Leben may be right. After Bisbing got hit by Matt Hammil he tried to stay out of excahnges with him as well. I think if Bisbing gets rocked and the fight doesn't go right to the ground where he can have a chance to recover it could be disasterous for him.
 
#101 ·
i know bisping isn't known for 1 punch ko power, but he definately has the skills stop leben. i think bisping will be too fast for leben, he'll be throwing fast punches and looking to throw some knees in the clinch. bisping is fighting in england, so he'll be looking to put on a great performance for his fans. i think bisping will get a tko victory in round 2.
 
#106 ·
I gotta go with Leben on this one, he's the hometown boy. He went to high school just a couple of miles from my house. Conveniently my cold analytical side also has him winning. I think he has the power to KO Bisping and the jitz to avoid any subs himself, whereas I don't think Bisping has the power to put Leben out.

Leben via 3rd round KO.
 
#110 ·
i dont think bisping wants to stand with leben, i wouldnt be surprised if bisping has trained strictly on his jitz for this fight and wins it on the ground.

btw for those who are gunna say bisping has no jitz to start with, hes been training jitz since the age of 14
 
#117 ·
Bisping trained in traditional jujitsu not BJJ when he was younger I think. He only started training BJJ for MMA.

I'd still probably give the edge in Jitz to him even though I've seen Leben work a decent rubber guard before. Slight edge in wrestling goes to Leben although Bisping did ok against Rashad so it's only slight. Standing I think everones calling it the same way. Technical edge and kicks go to Bisping but Lebens got more power and a better chin.

I'm liking this matchup TBH and I don't know who wins it.

From a personal viewpoint I'm on kinda on the fence aswell, I like both fighters but I'm not a ridiculously big fan of either. Just gutted I'm not gonna be there.
 
#122 ·
I have never really liked either fighter. However Leben seems to have grown up a little and i still for whatever reason don't like Bisping. So i'm gonna be rooting for Leben.


As far as who i think is going to win. I'm still kind of on the fence.

I think it ends up 1 of 2 ways.

A) Bisping plays it smart and moves around and does alot of counter striking and keeps things very technical and gets the UD (would be very hard for him to lose a decision in england anyways.)

B) Bisping gets caught up with the energy from the crowd and tries to put on a show and stays in the pocket and tries to bang with Leben and gets knocked out.
 
#123 ·
I have never really liked either fighter. However Leben seems to have grown up a little and i still for whatever reason don't like Bisping. So i'm gonna be rooting for Leben.


As far as who i think is going to win. I'm still kind of on the fence.

I think it ends up 1 of 2 ways.

A) Bisping plays it smart and moves around and does alot of counter striking and keeps things very technical and gets the UD (would be very hard for him to lose a decision in england anyways.)

I suppose that means all non American fighters fighting in the US have an automatic bias against them also?
Brits hate crap judges and couldnt give two craps if their home fighter loses as long as he fought well and lost fairly.
 
#124 ·
The British fans do your right but lets face it most people get a hometown advantage in the scoring unless its lopsided. And sometimes like in the case of Hammill even when it is lopsided they still favor the hometown boy.

It wasnt a shot at the British mate it was just a statement of fact. Not all Americans in amaerica will get the advantage but an American fighting anyone else in his actually state or town of origin wold probably get an advantage in the scoring aswell. Its not allways the case but it does happen bro.
 
#126 ·
how do you get hometown advantage in the scoring when the one British judge gives the decision to Hamill and the two USA judges to give it Bisping?
:dunno:
 
#125 ·
From what i know about boxing (and thats not alot, apart from its usually a snooze-fest) it happens alot in boxing. MMA not so much, i think some judges just score things in a strange way. I dont like that a guy who takes someone down and deos nothing gets more credit than someone on his back pulling off submission attempts. but thats a whole different debate.

I think Bisping will be too quick for Leben in this bout, but both fighters should put in a good display. I'm not counting Leben out though.
 
#128 ·
I don't think thats true, Bisping was pretty popular in the US before the Hamill fight. He did act like a prick after the fight but most fighters have had bad moments in their careers. What made it worse was that Hamill looked like a sad puppy or something after the fight, add to that the fact he's deaf and Bisping was in for some hate for sure.
 
#131 ·
Yeah the hate Bisping gets is over the top but I think it's more casual fans than serious ones cos thats all they know him for.

Hamill was way more of a dick on TUF and for a while afterwards but Bisping didn't look all sad and helpless and isn't deaf so it didn't provoke as much hate as Bispings stupid comments did. Thats life I suppose.
 
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