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Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva, November 2006 - Just Announced

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#1 · (Edited)
Here it is...... JUST ANNOUNCED

If Chuck Liddell wins against Babalu then in NOVEMBER 2006 he will face...

Wanderlei Silva
 
#27 ·
MMAforce said:
You guys are absolute MMA newbs if you think some scrub like Wanderlai has a chance vs Liddell.

Let me clear something up for you wannabee MMA'ers.

PRIDE = The absolute worst competition there is. Wanderlai could NOT hack it in the UFC, losing to both TITO ORTIZ and VITOR BELFORT, so he went to Pride. You want the truth? Thats the truth. He could not hack it in the Octagon, so he went to PRIDE where the Majority (NOT ALL) are sub-par fighters, and I give them nothing more than a Golf clap for their efforts.

K1 = WORSE than Pride. Don't even go there

UFC = All time best MMA there is, hands down, bar none. Best fighters come from UFC.


As I said already. WANDERLAI could not hack it in the UFC in the late nineties, and had to goto Pride to fight sub par fighters because of it. Now hes coming back, and going to get absolutely demolished, and smashT and crushT from Liddell, it won't even be worth watching. Wanderlei will be exiting preschool (Pride fighting) and skipping all the grade levels straight to College (UFC). He hasn't a chance in hell.

Do your research on the fighters who you guys think are good prior to just all of the sudden thinking they are going to come to the UFC and crush people. UFC has the absolute best fighters in World. Pride is like Pre-school in comparison. Get your facts striaght people :mad: :mad: :mad: Pride is like WWF - Bunch of cream filled, fluffy ******ry bull shit. Welcome to 2006.. welcome to the UFC.


Oh yeah one last thing. PRIDE is like UFC in 1994.... Having Sumo wrestlers fighting Karate(TAE KWAN DO) specialists.. Its absolutely pathetic.. MMA has evolved so much, yet PRIDE still hasn't got it through their thick heads. Live in the now People!

Oh yeah, and as for BABALU -

UFC 40: Vendetta (11/22/02), Babalu was KO'd by a kick to the head from Chuck Liddell in 2:59 of the first round.

smashT
I AHTE TO TELL YA BUDDY CUZ IM A UFC FAN, BUT IN GENERAL PRIDE HAS MORE TOP QUALITY FIGHTERS..IM NOT GONNA NAME THEM ALL BUT THERE ARE MORE...NOT TO MENTION THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION IN WHICH THOSE TWO IDIOTS IN LAST NIGHTS HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE WOULDNT BE IN THE PRIDE TOP 8
 
#28 ·
Steeda3 said:
Liddell by Knockout....I don't like Chuck Liddell but I hate Silva even more....Belfort Knocked his ass out in 14 seconds and Tito Ortiz has stated many times that Silva is really really overrated....I think Liddell at the moment is in a class by himself....

Only a very good wrestler has a chance at beating Liddell...Silva likes to strike on his feet and that plays into Liddell's hands....Liddell will catch him the same way he caught Couture and Belfort and it will be game over for Silva..
I AGREE STEEDA
 
#29 ·
jdun11 said:
OK AND CHUCK KO'D TITO WHICH WANDY COULDNT DO BECAUSE HE WAS TO BUSY LOSING TO HIM, AND CHUCK... BEAT VITOR WHICH WANDY DIDNT DO..IM SICK OF EVRYONE BRINGING UP RAMPAGE WHEN U COMPARE CHUCK AND WANDY..CHUCK LOSING TO RAMPAGE HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS FIGHT..WANDYS STYLE FITS RIGHT INTO CHUCKS STYLE A BRAWLER THAT WILL COME RIGHT TO HIM...MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS ONE IS NOT GOING TO THE GROUND...IF I HAD TO PICK ID SAY CHUCK BY DECISION...BUT DONT GET ME WRONG EITHER FIGHTER COULD WIN BY KO

Ok your sick of hearing "o Chuck lost to Rampage" well everyone else is sick of hearing that Wanderlei lost to Vitor and Tito. i guarantee that if Wanderlei faught either tito or vitor nowadays that Silva would wreck them. I am 100% positive on that note. and as to the idiot who made that long @ss post on how UFC is the best brand of MMA in the world. Someone should slap him right in his face, i mean are you that stupid to say that wanderlei left UFC to go to Pride where the competition is easier, that is one of the dumbest things that i have ever heard on any mma forum, i mean really. The heavyweights in UFC would have absolutely no hope in winning anything over in pride, any of the top ten Pride heavyweights could come to the Ufc and win the heavyweight title easily, that goes for most of the weight classes from pride. And that guys was calling us mma noobs, really buddy get your S**t straight before you start dissing Pride which is the best brand of mma in the world today. And you know what i really hope Liddell beats babalu's @ss, so he can go and fight Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva. Then we will see what you have to say, just you see what Chucks face looks like after that fight.
 
#30 ·
I think both fighters have improved allot since the respective losses mentioned! In the fight with Rampage,Chuck gassed and quit in the corner...even though his game plan wasn't working anyway! Wanderlei was young when he fought Vitor and Tito,so I think he has improved allot since then! Either way,it should be an entertaining fight! I'm going to pick Chuck,since it is on the UFC's turf!
 
#31 ·
Honestly i am tired of people saying Silva lost to Tito and Vitor what was that like 7 years ago? plz for the Chuck Liddell Jackson i think the two would still have a good fight but Chuck would probably win i mean come on Randy Coture beat Chuck in there first fight just as bad then he came back and knocked him out twice in a row i know Randy is old but he recked him.
 
#32 ·
MMAforce said:
You guys are absolute MMA newbs if you think some scrub like Wanderlai has a chance vs Liddell.

Let me clear something up for you wannabee MMA'ers.

PRIDE = The absolute worst competition there is. Wanderlai could NOT hack it in the UFC, losing to both TITO ORTIZ and VITOR BELFORT, so he went to Pride. You want the truth? Thats the truth. He could not hack it in the Octagon, so he went to PRIDE where the Majority (NOT ALL) are sub-par fighters, and I give them nothing more than a Golf clap for their efforts.

K1 = WORSE than Pride. Don't even go there

UFC = All time best MMA there is, hands down, bar none. Best fighters come from UFC.


As I said already. WANDERLAI could not hack it in the UFC in the late nineties, and had to goto Pride to fight sub par fighters because of it. Now hes coming back, and going to get absolutely demolished, and smashT and crushT from Liddell, it won't even be worth watching. Wanderlei will be exiting preschool (Pride fighting) and skipping all the grade levels straight to College (UFC). He hasn't a chance in hell.

Do your research on the fighters who you guys think are good prior to just all of the sudden thinking they are going to come to the UFC and crush people. UFC has the absolute best fighters in World. Pride is like Pre-school in comparison. Get your facts striaght people :mad: :mad: :mad: Pride is like WWF - Bunch of cream filled, fluffy ******ry bull shit. Welcome to 2006.. welcome to the UFC.


Oh yeah one last thing. PRIDE is like UFC in 1994.... Having Sumo wrestlers fighting Karate(TAE KWAN DO) specialists.. Its absolutely pathetic.. MMA has evolved so much, yet PRIDE still hasn't got it through their thick heads. Live in the now People!

Oh yeah, and as for BABALU -

UFC 40: Vendetta (11/22/02), Babalu was KO'd by a kick to the head from Chuck Liddell in 2:59 of the first round.

smashT

I don't think I've ever read a more highly misguided rant in my entire life. Congratulations on that dubious achievement. :laugh:
 
#35 · (Edited)
I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
smashT
 
#36 ·
MMAforce said:
I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.

That will be all.
smashT
hmm I see your opinion of Pride has improved.. Before it was comparing kindergarteners to college athletes if I recall now its college to Pros.. I've seen some of both and from what I have see. I like Pride better.. not much.. I think the bottem levels of pride are far below UFC.. but the upper levels of Pride are at least on par with Pride and some of the fighters are slightly better. I just think Pride in more cases does a better job pairing up fighters then UFC not as many mismatchs .. And trust me.. I am not a kid. I got 3 of my own...
 
#37 ·
#39 ·
MMAforce said:
I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.

UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
smashT


sounds like pubescent gender confusion.... It clouds your vision.... Just leave the Johnny Cakes alone and you'll be ok...
 
#40 ·
6spcl said:
of the current ufc champs, 2 have gone to japan to fight in pride. chuck got spanked by rampage. rich franklin got knocked out in a pride QUALIFER MATCH. he couldn't even make it into pride. do your research.
and wat about baroni, chuck beat mezger and overeem in pride..coleman, randleman all won fights over there wat are u talkin about u idiot
 
#42 ·
Exactly JDun.

And yes UFC has the superior fighters. I am still waiting for another 1994 flashback, where PRIDE sends over their Sumo Wrestlers (Their champs) and get submitted. Its quite hilarious. Pride has yet to evolve, whereas UFC is what made the MMA sport what it is today, with help from Gracie, etc..UFC is what made PRIDE what it is, even though PRIDE is more like the WWF as I explained, or a simple sparring match between two tae kwan do martial Artists, but thats it. Its quite simple to understand.
 
#43 ·
jdun11 said:
and wat about baroni, chuck beat mezger and overeem in pride..coleman, randleman all won fights over there wat are u talkin about u idiot

last time i checked baroni, randleman and coleman weren't current ufc champs. i'm not saying that every fighter in pride is better than every fighter in the ufc; that would be stupid. but it is also stupid to think that everyone in the ufc is better than evryone in pride. on the whole, pride has the better fighters, especially the heavyweights where the ufc is SORELY lacking.

and as far as the ufc being "more evolved" than pride: the main event for ufc60 involved royce gracie. the "co-main event" for ufc61 included ken shamrock. how is that "evolved"?
 
#44 ·
Is there a site that hasn't had Fedor ranked as #1 pound for pound fighter in the world the past 4 years? So the whole Pride fighters suck thing is kinda overstated.

As for Chuck VS Wand. Both are great fighters, both have improved in the last 7 years. Wandy has improved more. It should go to him, but a decent fight.

Also ask yourself this, if the UFC had a heavyweight GP, like pride. Would Chuck step in if someone had to drop out?? Silva did and won, destroying a bigger toughassed fighter in Kazuyuki Fujita. UFC isn't a joke, but Pride does have the edge in the HW and LHW classes, UFC has the edge in the lighter weights. Let's see Tim Silvia challenge Fedor next, that would be total destruction!
 
#45 ·
I can see 3 things happenning in the Liddell vs. Silva fight.

1. Silva comes out swinging, his punches and kicks are too fast for Liddell to counter and Liddell is overwhelmed. Fight ends with Silva getting a quick TKO due to referee stoppage.

2. Silva Comes out swinging, he's fast and strong, but he's also very wild. Chuck knows this, and when Silva starts throwing wild shots he eats a big right hook, Liddell wins by KO(Silva is a tough dude, possibly a TKO.)

3. The fight goes the distance, and this one I can't comment on. It will truly be an amazing fight I hope.
 
#46 ·
Chuck's got a few inches on Sliva so hence a greater reach in most cases...Muay Thai Vs. Hawaiian Kempo ..... and sure Wanderlei beat Rampage twice and Chuck lost to Quinton, but that was in '03, Liddell has improved greatly, nobody can deny that... if you wanna go back, well way back when Silva lost to Tito who Chuck absolutely destroyed, you just can't compare fights... come Nov. and I saw that confidently cuz Chuck will not get taken down by Sobral, we shall see who is the greatest in all the land, the greatest fight of all time will happen possibly too.....
 
#47 ·
All i can say is WOW...This is a fight for the times if it goes ahead. Silva likes kicking downed opponents in his axe murderer fashion....this might be a problem when he cant do it in UFC.

But seriously 2 tough ass athletes gettin it on.....what could be better....cant wait.
 
#49 ·
jdun11 said:
This Is A Great Fight U Guys Are Nuts If U Think Wandy Will Own Chuck..this Fight Is Gonna Be Crazy
I have to agree with you here, It is gonna be one hell of a match up. Even though I a am not a fan of Chuck I think he can take this fight. Silva is an animal but that may be his downfall, Chuck could very easily exploit Silva's wild and crazy style and we all know what happens when Chuck hits someone flush.

p.s.

Tyson in his prime was one scary guy, and poor little Fedor would stand no chance at all under any circumstances. It would be absolutely imbarrasing for him.
 
#50 ·
MMAforce said:
I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
smashT
Dude, I couldnt have said it any better myself, it is so refreshing to know there is some one out there who actually sees the forrest for the trees.
Pride puts all these "punching bags" in front of there "top" guys and when people see them get destroyed they assume the guy handing out the ass whipping is one of the greates fighter out there. Its bullshit. The UFC puts 2 world class fighters both with well rounded games in there together, you have to be serious contender to even enter the UFC. anyway thanks man you are by far the smartest guy on the forum:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
#51 ·
ranger595 said:
Let me guess... Chuck had the flu when he fought Rampage? His hands were hurt.... he forgot to train...... He took Ramgage lightly perhaps?

Whats worse gentlemen is that Chuck quit the fight. He didn't get knocked out or Subd he just didn't want to continue.... That's what we call a Game Loser in the Gym.... A fighter who only likes to fight win he's ahead......

Again I don't know all the facts, perhaps there was good plausable reason Chucky didn't want to fight anymore....

And I don't want to say what Wandy did to Rampage.........
Alright man, first off that was almost 4 years ago, did you even know who Chuck Liddell was 4 years ago????? I bet you did'nt. Since then, what has he done? Hmm, well it seems to me that he has KOed the list of whos who in MMA.
And EVERY ONE has bad days, Chuck is no exception. I am not even a Liddell fan but what you are saying is just plain stupid man, do some research go watch a little more and then come back and state your arguments.
 
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