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Training Philosophy?

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#1 ·
I have kind of a different philosophy, but that's because i am a small venue fighter. I think that to be best prepared for a fight you have to work to improve yourself before worrying about your opponent. I fight all the time, so this means that i don't have to focus on any one opponent on my schedule. I was wondering what everyone elses ideas were.
 
#3 ·
I agree with being well rounded, I personaly have never competed in an MMA style event have been thinking about it but I know I have a major weakness in my striking skills, I am confident of my grappling skills, so I know what I need to work on. As for mentally prepareing for a fight I think that depends on the person in question, I have been in some competitions, and have participated in many different team and individual sports, what I would do there is just enjoy it and lose myself in the competition and just give it everything I got
 
#4 ·
I'm weird..

My training is odd. My best attribute is my chin, haha. I have a very tough chin, (I've learned this from Taekwondo tournaments) But when I'm training for a fight, I ALWAYS talk to myself. Like, while running, or doing push-ups. I talk. I say "How bad do you want this ? ? You gotta work harder then this! !" And other assorted things, it keeps me going. It's kinda split personalilty like, haha. But still it works. :p
 
#5 ·
Thats a great way to keep your focus I never used that but then I have not really trained for any serious tournements, but I used similiar techniques when weight training.
Another thing I did while weight training though I only recomend this if you truly trust your training partner, but let them control the amount of weight you lift and set it up for you. do not look at the actual weight, we would always add 10-20 pounds more then we told each other and you would be surprised how much you can lift
for example My partner would say I was shoulder pressing 115, when I was really pushing about 130, it don't sound like alot but you would be surprised how much of your training limits are set by your brain not your body.

basicly meaning ( wanting to make sure I am clear, I have a tendency to ramble) that your body is capable of lifting more then your brain thinks it can.
 
#6 ·
Yeah, this idea of putting more weight in than you think so that you push yourself harder is a fun one to play with. It really forces you to test the limits that you put on yourself.

My favorite challenge while weight training is playing HORSE.

I bench 210 and my partner has to match it.
I bench 220 and my partner has to match it.
So on and so forth.

I'm not Tank, but I love to see how much I can press. It's really a great push, especially if you're training with someone that's really alot stronger than you. My record for the 1 benchpress horse game is 335. The gym record is 375.
 
#8 ·
My record for the 1 benchpress horse game is 335
didnt you say youre 155lbs or am I mistaken? if not that sounds awfully high for a guy that size. my friend benched 425lbs in high school [no roids] but he was a big center too.

yes its so easy to over do it with weights. I did with squats, ect and I couldnt walk upstairs for atleast 8 months unless I used my hands and I still have knee issues pop up sometimes. I have shoulder pains and slight dislocations every now and then too from when I went too heavy on the overhead tricep push. if I could go back and do it all again I'd use less weights and more reps.
 
#14 ·
one thing to remember is not compare the amount of weight you are lifitng to anther but the progress you are gaining, you could not expect a 100 pound guy to lift what a 300 pound guy could if both are moderate in build, though you can directly compare thier gains
 
#15 ·
This is some good stuff.

Don, that's a really good point, but there is a benefit to trying to lift what a 300 lb guy can lift, it makes you push yourself harder. I'm little but I push myself hard so I can life alot of weight.
 
#17 ·
Yeah, everything in moderation. Slow progression is necessary in weightlifting and cardio. As for actual combat training, get as much of that as you can.
 
#18 ·
iron you must be thick to pull that off. I had several football friends that were around 5'9" that were built very good and their highest weight presses were between 270-285lbs on free weights [machines usually show higher than actual weight] with no roids. I admired their builds and they certainly had no problems finding willing dates either because of it. you must be one stout guy I'll give you that.
 
#19 ·
fullpitch said:
iron you must be thick to pull that off. I had several football friends that were around 5'9" that were built very good and their highest weight presses were between 270-285lbs on free weights [machines usually show higher than actual weight] with no roids. I admired their builds and they certainly had no problems finding willing dates either because of it. you must be one stout guy I'll give you that.
Stout is a good adjective. The call me the Iron man (formerly the Iron Dwarf) for a reason. Remember that this is only one press and not a full 12 rep set like I usually do. I'm not on roids, but I do drink my milk.:D

I'm thick through the shoulders, chest and back. I have good sized arms but the focus of my weight is in my torso, so as long as something is right in front of me, I am in control.

I hope that words like "stout" and "thick" are meant as compliments, but I figured they are. What good is training if you're not pushing yourself, right?
 
#20 ·
ok that sounds right with what I was picturing. I knew if you could get that much weight up your chest must have been bigger than your arms. Ive seen guys with strong but not big arms get up weights that looking at them with their shirts on you'd not believe how strong they really were because their chests were thicker than appeared thru their shirts.
 
#21 ·
It's all about torso strength and about keeping the weight centered. You want my secret to grappling, here it is: Keep your opponent centered and in front of you, then you have control.

Anyways, anyone else got any grappling tips, at least until we get a grappling section up and running.
 
#22 ·
Training for grappling?

Get lots of grappling partners. It's too easy to figure out a person's game and come away thinking you've transformed your game when you start to constantly get your sole partner to tap. The truth being that figured out your partner's ground game and when he figures out yours, you're going to start looking like shit. Multiple grappling partners (different sizes and styles) will make you focus on what works, and will help you keep your mind in a place where it will adjust on the fly. Sharktank exercises/drill where you have 1 guy stay in while the others rotate in round after round will prove this over and over again, especially when you start getting tired.

If you're grappling, make sure everyone knows to give each other the opportunity to tap and has enough mutual respect to allow that. The worst thing for training in a grappling situation is to have some jackoff spaz out on you and A) Injure you or B) Injure themselves because they go gung-ho on a takedown or submission hold.

Find a good coach. Not just a credentialled guy, but somebody with experience. Thankfully, most folks that you find that are credentialed (from creditable sources) are usually very experienced, especially considering that most Black Belts in Judo or Jiu-Jitsu have usually spent anywhere from 7 to 10 years getting there. In which cases, many brown belts or purple belts will do a lot of good for you if you don't have a black belt available.

Finally, have fun and don't be scared to experiment. As rudimentary and mechanical as grappling is, sometimes the unorthodox and showy tactics will work with suprising results. Sure, you may not always land that flying armbar, but it's always good to know that you can do it.
 
#24 ·
The Don said:
Some excellent advice, don't trust people who earned there black belt in less then 5 years inless that is all the did and nothing else, even then be leary of them
Yeah, I have a problem with a martial art that can give a kid a blackbelt at age 13 or 14. They can't be disciplined enough or capable of really understanding all of the syllabus. It's just a personal preference, but I like to work for ranks in martial arts.
 
#26 ·
Most tkd schools will give anyone a blackbelt. My friends and I put together a competition for MMA fighers and had a bunch of 16 and 17 year old tkd blackbelts show up and this is what it looked like after our matches with them. Red and Twiggy are my buddies.

Red v TKD guy 1: Red wins at 1:40, submission due to strikes
Twiggy v TKD guy 2: Twiggy wins at 1:12, submission by rear naked choke
Me v TKD guy 3: I win at 1:27, submission due to strikes

The thing is, these guys went to the ground so easily that it was ridiculous. They couldn't stop us from moving in, clinching and taking them down. As for internet guys we've only ever had one of those, I took him:

Me v Internet Blackbelt: 1 win at 0:57 submission due to anklelock.

Anywhere that offers you a blackbelt without 5 solid years of work should be avoided.
 
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