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View Poll Results: WHO IS THE WORLDS BEST GRAPPLER AND SUBMISSION SPECIALIST?

ANTONIO RODRIGO NOGUEIRA 4 14.81%
DEAN LISTER 2 7.41%
RICARDO ARONA 0 0%
ROYCE GRACIE 9 33.33%
FEDOR EMILIANENKO 9 33.33%
ANTONIO ROGERIO NOGUERIA 1 3.70%
RENATO BABALU SOBRAL 2 7.41%
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Babalu is a good grappler like the Bonnar fan said but not as good as Sudo, Rodrigo Nogueira, and Fedor. Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira are very good too. As well as Silva and Rua. Those are the best in my opinion.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I picked Royce gracie for one reason.

He FIGHTS IN THE UFC.

If you wanna make a post about pride and ufc go to general forums.

i mean christ if your going to ask a question about something, make it on topic.

and Fedor isn't even close to the best submissions fighter in the world lol

Edit: i didn mean he cant submit people, i just dont think hes "the best"
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I picked Royce gracie for one reason.

He FIGHTS IN THE UFC.

If you wanna make a post about pride and ufc go to general forums.

i mean christ if your going to ask a question about something, make it on topic.

and Fedor isn't even close to the best submissions fighter in the world lol

Edit: i didn mean he cant submit people, i just dont think hes "the best"
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Russian Combat Sambo Champion (Moscow championship, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (heavyweight division) (Saloniki, Greece, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (absolute division) (Panama, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (heavyweight division) (Prague, Czech Republic, 2005)

Thats enough for me, well that and his 10/23 wins in MMA by submission, his devistating G&P attack and the fact he puts everyone to the ground at will.
Nog must have tried 30 subs on him in the 3 fights and was brushed off or pounded for his efforts, and Nog is a sub-machine!
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Old 08-12-2006, 04:18 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Fedor is a good grappler but hell a lot better at striking and ground and pound in other words punching. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Ricardo Arona, Mauricio Rua, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, Paulo Filho, Babalu are a lot better. And the guy is right why is this in the UFC forum when three quarters of the options are PRIDE fighters. Ridicolous.
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Old 08-12-2006, 05:03 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 08-12-2006, 05:24 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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If You Guys Read The Question, It Sais Grappler And Submission Specialist..not Just Submission Specialist..basically, Whos The Best Once The Fight Hits The Ground...and The Answer Is Fedor..theres Really No Other Answer Imo, Because He Owns Everyone On The Ground..and Stop Whing Over This Being In The Ufc Section, I Only Put In This Section Cuz More People Go In This Section, If U Got Something Stupid To Say, Keep It To Yourself And Dont Reply To My Threads..im Sick Of The *****en
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If You Guys Read The Question, It Sais Grappler And Submission Specialist..not Just Submission Specialist..basically, Whos The Best Once The Fight Hits The Ground...and The Answer Is Fedor..theres Really No Other Answer Imo, Because He Owns Everyone On The Ground..and Stop Whing Over This Being In The Ufc Section, I Only Put In This Section Cuz More People Go In This Section, If U Got Something Stupid To Say, Keep It To Yourself And Dont Reply To My Threads..im Sick Of The *****en
This reply has my vote for reply of the year. Why does it seem that the people who have been around here the longest are the biggest ball busters. Its a discussion forum, not a ballbusting forum, if you dont like what someone says; than state your position and be done with it. Why must you waste reply after reply making the same point which is really nothing more than a ballbusting session because someone did not say what you want? I can not tell you how many topics I have lost interest in because of the catty mentality of some of the members here. Grow up. Its a mma forum and it feels more like a tupperware party at times. butch up girls and stop acting like a bunch of queens.

BTW I went with Gracie because I am old school.:P


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over all on the gropund Fedor is one of the best I picked him becasue of not just skill but his tenacity.. I mean the man gets dropped on his head and less then a minute later is winning the match by submission... in individual skills he may not be the best but over all he is one of the best... as for this being in the UFC thread.. geez no need to be so picky over which thread it is in people make mistakes all the time.. I have moved threads to the right topic alot.. this one is close.. this may not have been the best choice but it was not completely the wrong choice. but just to stop hearing people complain over something so trival I will move it to the correct section.
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Thats stupid because techniqually i think Ken Shamrock was a better grappler then any of these guys and he was pretty good with submissions as well.

And ya Fedor might have been good in Sambo but guess what.

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Thats dean listers records. And i think its more impressive that he's won Sambo, Machado, and Gracie JJ championships.

and guess what he's 8/8 wins in submissions lol
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