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MickTamariki 11-20-2006 09:44 AM

Does anyone know which form of martial arts uses Sais?
 
Does anyone know which form of martial arts teaches you how to use Sais? They are supposed to be really good for coordination. Here is a pic of them:


Choke_Wire 11-20-2006 01:09 PM

well figger out what the teenage mutant ninja turtles do and u might be on to somthing

Heggi 11-21-2006 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MickTamariki
Does anyone know which form of martial arts teaches you how to use Sais? They are supposed to be really good for coordination. Here is a pic of them:


Ninjutsu i think.:)

Spartan42 11-21-2006 12:17 PM

Im pretty sure there are a number of martial arts that use those or at least something similar but I think Heggi is right, primarily Ninjutsu.

Onganju 11-21-2006 04:44 PM

LOL... Actually many styles of Karate (Kenpo, Shinryu, Issinryu, etc) incorporate some form of weapons training. Not all of them teach the wepons forms due to the extended amount of legalise that needs to be addressed. If you are looking for a Karate Dojo that teaches weapons forms, look around for one that teaches either Kobudo or Kobujutsu. Just be forewarned that most don't teach you weapon styles right away, and none teach just the weapon styles exclusively (all require the empty hand styles to be incorporated). Cool thing about that is you can be taught how to handle many different weapons (if the teacher is knowledgable enough).

Just don't go rushing out to find a Ninjutsu place, that isn't the primary style that incorporates weapons training. I've also found that it is also one of the more common "McDojo" types around, as there really isn't a way to confirm someone's credentials as reliably as with other styles. Thank you Eastman and Laird for creating the Ninja Turtles... :laugh:

Heggi 11-21-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Onganju
LOL... Actually many styles of Karate (Kenpo, Shinryu, Issinryu, etc) incorporate some form of weapons training. Not all of them teach the wepons forms due to the extended amount of legalise that needs to be addressed. If you are looking for a Karate Dojo that teaches weapons forms, look around for one that teaches either Kobudo or Kobujutsu. Just be forewarned that most don't teach you weapon styles right away, and none teach just the weapon styles exclusively (all require the empty hand styles to be incorporated). Cool thing about that is you can be taught how to handle many different weapons (if the teacher is knowledgable enough).

Just don't go rushing out to find a Ninjutsu place, that isn't the primary style that incorporates weapons training. I've also found that it is also one of the more common "McDojo" types around, as there really isn't a way to confirm someone's credentials as reliably as with other styles. Thank you Eastman and Laird for creating the Ninja Turtles... :laugh:

No i went to another forum where they was talking about
a lot of different martial arts, and i found out
that one of the weapons they use in ninjutsu
looked like the one in the picture. sorry if im wrong
i justed tryed to awnser the question..
im sure there is a lot of other martial arts that uses weapons like that too, but ninjutsu was the one i found
so that what i wrote.
and btw, you dont use knifes when you train kempo karate ;)

Onganju 11-21-2006 09:00 PM

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and btw, you dont use knifes when you train kempo karate
Not according to this link here. Besides, Sai are not knives... They are originally tines for farming forks/pitch forks. In fact, all of the Okinawan Style Karate weapons in Kobudo/Kobujutsu originated from the use of farm tools. The Nunchaku are originally rice flails. The Kama are farming sickels. The Bo could have been any type of utilitarian dowel or rod used for carrying food or hanging clothes. This was done because the regular peasantry (not part of the Samurai or military class) was not allowed the use or possession of Swords.

True, Ninjutsu does incorporate weapons training (which may include use of the Sai). However, I think it would be easier to find a Karate Dojo that is reputable that includes Kobudo or Kobujutsu training. Like I said, not all of them include training in the weapon arts.

Heggi 11-22-2006 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Onganju
Not according to this link here. Besides, Sai are not knives... They are originally tines for farming forks/pitch forks. In fact, all of the Okinawan Style Karate weapons in Kobudo/Kobujutsu originated from the use of farm tools. The Nunchaku are originally rice flails. The Kama are farming sickels. The Bo could have been any type of utilitarian dowel or rod used for carrying food or hanging clothes. This was done because the regular peasantry (not part of the Samurai or military class) was not allowed the use or possession of Swords.

True, Ninjutsu does incorporate weapons training (which may include use of the Sai). However, I think it would be easier to find a Karate Dojo that is reputable that includes Kobudo or Kobujutsu training. Like I said, not all of them include training in the weapon arts.

I have a friend that trains kempo karate, he has trained for about 3 years now, and he told me that they dont use sharp weapons, like knifes or anything like that.
But what ever.. hehe i dont know, im a jj guy i dont
care about fighting with weapons :laugh:

Onganju 11-22-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Heggi
I have a friend that trains kempo karate, he has trained for about 3 years now, and he told me that they dont use sharp weapons, like knifes or anything like that.
But what ever.. hehe i dont know, im a jj guy i dont
care about fighting with weapons :laugh:

It really depends on the dojo. Not all of them will teach weapon styles, if any at all. Most of that would be determined by the personal knowledge and schooling of the sensei, which can be as varied as any MMA practitioner now (just in Traditional Martial Arts).

On the second part, I'm more into sticks myself. I think practical weapons training has its place also, especially in the self-defense realm.

Evil 11-22-2006 10:57 AM

Ive never cared much of weapon fighting/training/defense but lately ive really gotten interested in stick fighting, looks like fun


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