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NotreDameIND 04-11-2006 11:26 PM

Struggling With Strength
This area might not be ment for this question, but I figured I'd start it off with one...

I've been working out for about 3 years now and every once and a while I'll stop for a couple weeks and then go back on, but my question is....

Lately I've been trying to condition so I've been running everyday for about a 30 min time period and I've noticed a pretty large drop in strength and a large drop in weight... I even get comments on how skinny I'm looking and I was wondering if there is any way to condition without losing so much mass? My initial goal was to get ready to train in Atlanta for MMA. I'm naturally skinny and I worked my way up from benching 35 pounds to 185. My body types weird

I understand that I need to eat a good bit and I was getting in 4 meals between every 3 hours so hopefully someone can help me out.

(Sorry about all the info just trying to get it out there so I can get a good answer... Thanks for who ever reads this.)

---Somebody told me to quite running all together and get my conditioning from fighting...

sl1ck 04-12-2006 11:06 AM

I cant see running being the issue, more of a diet/intake issue.
Eat more carbs, some gravies, potatoes, fibrous carbohydrates and that should help you retain some weight.
Make sure thereís protein intake daily, 3 cans of tuna over the day would be sufficient, maybe at 5-6 pm (dinner) have tuna and pasta.
Again, youíre one of those people that can more than likely burn everything you eat off in no time, good metabolism. But i donít think cutting out your cardio would be wise decision, if anything up it to very intensive level.
Maybe you should meet a dietician and see what they come up with.

NotreDameIND 04-12-2006 03:43 PM

Thanks for the advice... I didn't think I should cut my cardio out and moving up to high intensity ie sprints sounds like a good idea.

Royce Gracie 04-12-2006 06:15 PM

IMO, cardio is you best friend. You can be as strong as you want, but if you can't stick it out, it's no use. Perfect example: Tank Abbott. I'd never pick a fight with him, but I'd run against him anyday.

ZeroPRIDE 04-12-2006 07:32 PM

Eat lots of protein or protein drinks. Dont cut out your running just limit it. Too much running will hurt you trying to gain whieght, and strenght. My firend was doig the same thing. He would eat alot and run and work out but he wasnt get anywhere. So he started eat more protein and less running. He gain about 50 pounds or so in mucsle.

chris2430 04-13-2006 04:43 PM

Struggling With Strength
I agree with whoever commented about cardio being a big advantage, not only stamina but quickness can be achieved through long runs and sprints along with various other workouts. I am pretty big, about 6"2 and 230lbs but I am in pretty good shape and I took a pretty good whipping by a guy about 5" shorter and 50lbs lighter a couple years back, before Oklahoma got away from Tough Man contest, this was just from his quickness and stamina but I never forgot it because it bothered me so much, for obvious reasons. I would suggest getting into the high carb intake and continue the cardio workout. While on a different subject, I am trying to get into the TXMMA competitions but can't find out who too call, any help would be greatly appreciated.

moldy 05-11-2006 03:59 AM

You can buy weight gaining supplements. It's easier to convert fat to muscle then make muscle out of nowwhere. Plus if you don't have lots of carbs your body burns muscle protiens and stuff when your running. So eat carb's so you don't damage muscle and take weight gaining supplements.

IronMan 05-16-2006 12:46 AM

I'm a small guy (5'7" and 155) and i look at the weight/strength situation pretty simply.
If i feel like i need to put on weight for a no-weightclass competition that i eat alot of carbs and protein and start on supplements. I don't run and spend all of my time working on the weights. If you're looking to gain weight and improve muscle mass then that's a good answer.
But don't look at size as the defining feature, if you can only bench 185 than you might be in trouble, but sometimes a light build is useful.
In weighclass competitions it lets you fight guys with less reach and gives you a big advantage as a standup fighter, as long as your punches can do some damage.

And i don't know why running would hurt, unless that's all you're doing.

The Don 05-25-2006 12:07 AM

one thing to remember is Fat and Muscle are two completely seperate types of tissue, one does not turn into the other no matter how hard you work out. Now muscle tissue is the only tissue in the body that can gete rid of fat so by conditioning muscle your body burns fat more productively, in your case I suggest keep doing what you are doing but increase the ammount of protien you take in by alot carbs are good too for the energy espically if you run alot. I would also increase your weight training as that will help build muscle mass.

IronMan 06-02-2006 06:13 PM

Also remember that muscle weighs more than fat. My favorite example of this is Snowman (Jeff Monson). Who weighs in at 230 solid and is only 6'2". If you look at his torso and his legs. . . well, they speak for themselves.

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