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Old 06-04-2008, 11:28 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Henrik Zetterberg got Conn Smythe?
Come on dude, he earned it and no real Penguins fan should give Fleury shit for tonight's game.

I wish my Maple Leafs weren't run by bootlickers and had a good ol mom and pop thing on the go like the Red Wings.
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:33 AM   #302 (permalink)
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I didn't mean for it to sound that he didn't deserve it cause he is among the people that do but I got the feeling that he got alittle extra browny points for the game-winning goal....which was really weak. If that were the case (making the decision on a single games performance) then who's anyone to ignore Fleury's performance that took the previous game into the 6th period? I think Fleury's accomplishment was more impressive than scoring a goal that required zero skill to get. Just what I think anyway.

To tell the honest truth, I was pissed off for only about 15-20 minutes then after that I was happy and extremely proud that the Penguins had even made it that far. They played the team that was the best in the league for the past 7-8 years and gave them a battle. The best team this year won the cup, they deserve it I guess, good for them.

I thought it was stupid that Chelios got to hold it before Osgood did though.

Well, thank you everyone for contributing to this thread, it was the first thing I looked at when I came to the boards everyday. Now that the season is over we can look forward to the free agency and draft choices, which will both be exciting.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:30 AM   #303 (permalink)
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Penguins, please keep Marion Hossa!
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Penguins, please keep Marion Hossa!
Dude's shipping off to Boston. Contract year = better performances.

If Malkin gets the big salary through abitration/whatever and they want to keep the likes of Fleury, Whitney, Malone etc. (not end up like Tampa Bay did), he'll be delt out to LA in something like a 5-1 deal.
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Dude's shipping off to Boston. Contract year = better performances.

If Malkin gets the big salary through abitration/whatever and they want to keep the likes of Fleury, Whitney, Malone etc. (not end up like Tampa Bay did), he'll be delt out to LA in something like a 5-1 deal.
Neither of us can say for certain regarding Hossa, so it's kind of pointless to settle on him going to Boston (we do recall how unhappy he was in an Atl uniform, and Boston isn't much better). He's on the Pens right now and came inches from a cup. He also has the benefit of playing on the wing of the game's best playmaker. It might be enough to twist his arm into taking a little less money to stay and become part of a possible dynasty. 6 years, 6-7 million is doable for Pittsburgh, if they're willing to hit the top of the salary cap. Seeing as next year's season tickets have already been sold out, Crosby and Malkin are 1 and 2 for top jersey sales, and the team just made it to the SCF, I'm guessing they don't have to worry much about revenues. Plus I'm hoping Hossa's marginal regular season scares off potential offerers.

Malone is born and raised in Pit. He is going to want to say. That being said, this is the year for him to shop if he wants the big big money. Playing on a line with Malkin, on such a strong team bumped his numbers to as high as they would likely go. I like the guy, and really hope he stays.

Fleury isn't going anywhere IMO. Mark my words there.

Orpik is the defenseman you were thinking of as a FA. Whitney is locked in long term.

Roberts and Sydor are going to be sent packing, clearing up a healthy 3-5 million.

Keep in mind that Malkin and Staal are signed through next year, so their contract hits will not occur in 08. There are means of front-end or back-end loading contracts to dictate which years big costs will hit. It's kind of like faulty accounting, but legal. Watch for the Flyers in 3 years when they'll have a majority of their guys locked in still with the lower end of their contracts kicking in; they'll have lots of money and lots of room to go after big time players (maybe a goalie would be nice...please don't flame me with "Biron played awesome" stuff cause the guy just doesn't cut it).

I've heard the big trade with the Kings thing before with Ovechkin (you mentioned Malkin). Thing is, if you're going to do it for financial reasons, getting all of those players in return is going to end up costing you more, even if you let go of some others...Maybe LA would cover some of the contracts but I am not really sure. Dustin Brown, O'Sullivan, Kopitar, Frolov, and Jack Johnson are all some serious talents.

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Keep in mind that Malkin and Staal are signed through next year, so their contract hits will not occur in 08. There are means of front-end or back-end loading contracts to dictate which years big costs will hit. It's kind of like faulty accounting, but legal. Watch for the Flyers in 3 years when they'll have a majority of their guys locked in still with the lower end of their contracts kicking in; they'll have lots of money and lots of room to go after big time players (maybe a goalie would be nice...please don't flame me with "Biron played awesome" stuff cause the guy just doesn't cut it).

It doesn't matter if they are front loaded, or back loaded. It is the average amount paid over the time that is held against the salary cap. It's gonna suck for teams down the line with these massive contracts.

Zetterberg deserved the Conn Smythe. What was he +16 in 22 games? Sickening.

Detroit is going to be able to put out a sexy team for years to come, this team is never going to have an 'off' year.

Penguins are going to be scary good in the regular season next year. I have them winning the presidents cup, unless they trade away some talent. They won't.

and finally, Go Canucks. Let's get ourselves to the top of the NW division again .
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It doesn't matter if they are front loaded, or back loaded. It is the average amount paid over the time that is held against the salary cap. It's gonna suck for teams down the line with these massive contracts.
I stand corrected. You are right, sir.

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and finally, Go Canucks. Let's get ourselves to the top of the NW division again .
What happened to Luongo anyway? The one year I finally get him in a fantasy draft and he drops off at the end of the season. The Cannucks have no scoring outside of the Sedin twins.
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They'll address it. Marian Hossa is a UFA, and they have some prospects they could trade. There's definately ways to fill the void of the lack of scoring in Van City.
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