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Old 06-21-2008, 08:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The whole worked shoot thing in Japan is irrelevant now with MMA, and it looks silly to me now. Like I watched Josh Barnett against Don Frye and it was terrible. But check out Mark Coleman's pro wrestling stints that shit is gold
I liked what I saw of Tamura's U-Style stuff, as it reminded me of the old UWF. I've always loved me some Rings and UWF, so of course, I'd like that stuff.

I am curious to see his match with Don Frye, though, as that can't be anything but a train wreck. Don Frye is still wrestling? Yeesh...

Frye did manage to get a good match out of Scott Norton, though.

What do you think of Maeda's Rings and the UWF?

All Japan's 70's stuff was ridiculously good. Like, the Destroyer vs Mil Mascaras, their series ruled. Brisco vs Funk was great.
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i think a worked shoot can still work, it would look just like a normal MMA match and you would never even notice it was fake.....

the problem is that egos make that hard to pull off.
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I thought Barnett and Fryes match wasn't that bad actually.......
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I liked Barnett's match with Tamura from U-Style. Then again, I like just about anything from Kiyoshi Tamura.
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I never really like Tamura, and the whole MW GP fiasco has not done much to resolve the situation........
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Why don't you like Tamura, and didn't he break his hand fighting Funaki? It's not like he broke it on purpose.

You better like Volk Han.
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Why don't you like Tamura, and didn't he break his hand fighting Funaki? It's not like he broke it on purpose.

You better like Volk Han.

I know he injured himself, but it's still he's fault Saku had to fight Manhoef. I don't know if he broke his hand, but if so for some reason I didn't think the injury was that serious.


Volk Han is awesome, both as a wrestler and a fighter.
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At least you think Volk Han is awesome. He really is. Great fighter and great pro-wrestler. His whole career is overlooked by many MMA fans. The guy had excellent sambo.

He makes pro-wrestling look manly. He is amazing.
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It's not really that I dislike Tamura, I just prefer Saku, cos hes my hero, and Funaki, cos he's a badass.

Tamura never seemed to have what either of those guys had for me.




ROH seems pretty cool, but if I watch Pro-wrestling now, it's mostly old matches, and it's about 90% for the nostalgia.
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I liked what I saw of Tamura's U-Style stuff, as it reminded me of the old UWF. I've always loved me some Rings and UWF, so of course, I'd like that stuff.

I am curious to see his match with Don Frye, though, as that can't be anything but a train wreck. Don Frye is still wrestling? Yeesh...

Frye did manage to get a good match out of Scott Norton, though.

What do you think of Maeda's Rings and the UWF?

All Japan's 70's stuff was ridiculously good. Like, the Destroyer vs Mil Mascaras, their series ruled. Brisco vs Funk was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xexrDXpjWo I didn't like it, but there's not much good from Frye. Dude's a fighter before a wrastler.

RINGS pre MMA and UWF were a great concept for its time and it drew some ridiculous money. Honestly, I have not checked out enough as you and others, but it made Antoni Inoki's bullshit look even worse. Maeda was a pretty big prick to everybody on the Japanese wrastling scene though (I think), I know he hated Inoki at least and did some legit hurtin on guys.

AJPW was the shit for stiff matches. Kobashi/Dr. Death for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AsjhRd9JHU Shame the company is a bit of a side show now

Terry Funk pre broken down old man and Ric Flair were classics. A lot of people will hate Bret Hart, but he's another guy I loved as a kid and his work is top notch as well.
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