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Old 08-24-2008, 11:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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If only Charlie ( Vedran Corluka ) would move to Tottenham and leave that problematic situation in City with the owner and shit.. we need our players in better shape be4 the qualification 4 the WC.. And Luka Modric would get better since he is friend with Chorluka i only see it as a win move 4 the Spurs
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Old 08-24-2008, 12:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
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No offence man but I can see Ramos getting the sack soon, You should have never got rid of Jol.
Jol was screwed over but he was making no improvment in our defense. Despite two top 5 finishes we had conceded more goals than anyone not in the bottom 6. The only reason we had success was that we had scored more goals than anyone not in the top 4.

Ramos needs to time and a settled dressing room. He is a proven success in La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Europe. Give him Arshavin and this season then judge his performance.

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If only Charlie ( Vedran Corluka ) would move to Tottenham and leave that problematic situation in City with the owner and shit.. we need our players in better shape be4 the qualification 4 the WC.. And Luka Modric would get better since he is friend with Chorluka i only see it as a win move 4 the Spurs
The only benefit of this move would be to give Modric a playmate. We already have plenty of cover at centre back and right back so I cannot see Corluka getting a game if he did move.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:03 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Yes it was Plazz. O man did I love those teams. The teams for the last two years have really never played well together.
That's because they're going to Madrid route, in that the bigger the name, the better the result. Chelsea had a great plan in building a strong core, back then. They really functioned properly and weren't too caught up with money.

Damn, I miss Duff and Guddy.


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Old 08-24-2008, 08:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Phil Neville, really???

I like Cahill, think he's a seriously underrated player and could do a job in one of the top teams.

Before the summer I thought Everton would be in the european spots and possibly pushing Liverpool for fourth along with Villa and Spurs but after making literally no signings I see them with a top half, maybe borderline top six/seven finish cos they've still got a fair bit of quality and a team that plays together well.

After today my faith in Martin O'Neill has been strengthened even more and Barry showed Liverpool just why he's worth at least 18M. He's keeping Hargreaves and Carrick out of the England team and those two, whilst overrated, both cost 18m of Man Uniteds money.
You're having a laugh if you think Barry is worth more than 15mil, he is only valued that highly because of his nationality, you can find better player internatinally for cheaper

I'm surprised how people are disregarding Liverpool in the title race, it's one thing to win when you're playing good football but the fact that they won playingbad shows that they can contend

give it a few games, Liverpool will be back to their best, with Mascherano and Lucas back and Gerrard, Torres and Keane playing at their best, Liverpool will be a force in the title race
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:35 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I believe that Corluka could play for any team on this planet .. he is one of the better ones we have plus hes young so who ever has him should use him .. this season hes gonna be even better .. didnt watch the game against west ham but i heard that he started some good action which led to 2 goals .. that should mean something.. not only a defensive lad..
Well yeah i do believe that he would play should he move from City .. last season he played most games of all his teammates and u could call him a rookie back then in england .. should Tottenham not get him some1 else will .. and that 1 could easy be ManU.. its only a question of $ when that happens and he wont be worth 10 mil anymore
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:18 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Jol was screwed over but he was making no improvment in our defense. Despite two top 5 finishes we had conceded more goals than anyone not in the bottom 6. The only reason we had success was that we had scored more goals than anyone not in the top 4.

Ramos needs to time and a settled dressing room. He is a proven success in La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Europe. Give him Arshavin and this season then judge his performance.

Its England and he will not get time, Curbishley was under pressure before the season began Ramos with no wins in two games the pressure is mounting.

The English media can be horrific at times and they will happily see Ramos sacked to get a story
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You're having a laugh if you think Barry is worth more than 15mil, he is only valued that highly because of his nationality, you can find better player internatinally for cheaper

Totally agree about Barry because there is so much money in the premiership and english player has is value doubled right off the bat and if you want a premiership to premiership transfer the price you have to pay silly money

Thats why there are so many foreigners in the premier league.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:07 AM   #48 (permalink)
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You're having a laugh if you think Barry is worth more than 15mil, he is only valued that highly because of his nationality, you can find better player internatinally for cheaper

I'm surprised how people are disregarding Liverpool in the title race, it's one thing to win when you're playing good football but the fact that they won playingbad shows that they can contend

give it a few games, Liverpool will be back to their best, with Mascherano and Lucas back and Gerrard, Torres and Keane playing at their best, Liverpool will be a force in the title race
Yeah but nationality comes into play when your talking about transfer fees, especially with the possibility of a 6+5 rule coming into play. Look at Carrick and Hargreaves, both cost 18M and Barrys a much better player than either of them.

TBF I can't see Liverpool even contending the title anytime soon. Mascherano can't tackle and will always be muscled out of games by a world class midfielder, especially in England. Robbie Keane is a bad signing IMO, yeah he can look good but he's too greedy and goes missing too often. Look at how many clubs he's been at.
Torres is world class and Gerrard can be on his day. Lucas, the jury's still out but he does look like he's got bags of potential.

Thats two top players at the club and you know thats not enough to challenge Man U or Chelsea.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:15 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Yeah but nationality comes into play when your talking about transfer fees, especially with the possibility of a 6+5 rule coming into play. Look at Carrick and Hargreaves, both cost 18M and Barrys a much better player than either of them.

TBF I can't see Liverpool even contending the title anytime soon. Mascherano can't tackle and will always be muscled out of games by a world class midfielder, especially in England. Robbie Keane is a bad signing IMO, yeah he can look good but he's too greedy and goes missing too often. Look at how many clubs he's been at.
Torres is world class and Gerrard can be on his day. Lucas, the jury's still out but he does look like he's got bags of potential.

Thats two top players at the club and you know thats not enough to challenge Man U or Chelsea.
Mascherano can tackle, he took Kaka out of the CL final in 07
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:27 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Mascherano is lucky he doesn't get at least booked pretty much every game. He's a good player no argument and he's got great positioning but bringing up one game doesn't change the fact that he hacks at at least a couple of players a game and comes over the top way too often in his tackles.
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