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post #181 of 414 (permalink) Old 12-26-2013, 02:19 AM
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I'll always root for Cotto, he's always seemed the good guy in Boxing. He just goes in there and does his thing.

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post #182 of 414 (permalink) Old 12-26-2013, 06:50 AM
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Martinez barely got past Murray, I think Cotto is the better fighter at this stage of their respective careers. But Martinez looks bigger, is there much of a height/reach disadvantage for cotto?

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martinez will pound cotto badly, this won't even be remotely close

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post #184 of 414 (permalink) Old 12-28-2013, 02:22 AM
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The era of the Klitschko brothers dominating boxing's former glory division appears to be over, as Vitali Klitschko's focus has shifted from the sweet science to the volatile political scene in Ukraine. Now, younger brother Wladimir stands alone atop the heavyweight mountain.

This year, Wladimir finally dispatched Alexander Povetkin in a dominant but truly miserable performance. That fight was five years in the making, twice bailed on by Povetkin, and once we finally got it, it lived down to the worst expectations and fears. That said, as he approaches age 38, Wladimir seems no more vulnerable now than he has since he finally found his true groove about seven years ago. He's barely so much as lost a round in that time, and he appears no closer to falling now than he has been at any point since he demolished Chris Byrd in 2006.

The last batch of potential threats have been dealt with. Since 2006, we've seen Wladimir or Vitali dispose of supposed contenders Povetkin, David Haye, Chris Arreola, Sultan Ibragimov, Ruslan Chagaev, Odlanier Solis, Samuel Peter, Dereck Chisora, Kevin Johnson, Eddie Chambers, and Tomasz Adamek.

There is, however, a new crop of potential foes cautiously treading water around Wladimir. Here are five guys that could wind up as the next big hope to meet the end of Wladimir's jab.

Kubrat Pulev
Pulev (19-0, 10 KO) is the most talented of the bunch, or at least the most well-rounded. The 6'4", 32-year-old Bulgarian was an accomplished amateur, much like Povetkin and Solis, with a couple fairly impressive wins, and some nice performances against "giants" like Alexander Ustinov and Alexander Dimitrenko. Pulev, though, is a pretty straightforward, mostly basic talent, much like Povetkin in particular. While style-wise they're not the same fighter, both of them bring about the same things to the table. They're not prone to making bad mistakes, which means they'll likely slog through 12 rounds while being unable to figure out how to do anything to Wladimir. We already saw it with Povetkin, and as good as Pulev might be, a similar fight should be the expectation if and when he cashes in his mandatory title shot.

Tyson Fury
The loudest of the lot, Fury (21-0, 15 KO) saw his career stalled in 2013 because he bothered to sign up for a fight with David Haye that was first postponed due to a training camp cut, and then outright canceled, with Haye's career reportedly in jeopardy due to a shoulder injury. To say that Fury doesn't much buy Haye's reasons would be a bit of an understatement, but that chapter of Fury's career, such as it were, is now in the past. Fury talks a lot (a lot) and gets himself in trouble with is mouth, but so far he's been able to back it up in the ring. He's no longer the uncoordinated, reckless brawler who got too excited and punched himself in the face throwing an uppercut. Fury still occasionally gets a bit ahead of himself, and he can be put on the canvas, but he's got a real fighter's spirit and to beat him, it looks as though you're going to have to truly outfight him. He's got the size at 6'9", 250 pounds, but does he have the skill to trouble Wladimir, or even the one-punch power to change the complexion of a fight? That's the real question.

Bermane Stiverne
At 35, Stiverne (23-1-1, 20 KO) is the old man of this bunch. The Haitian-born Stiverne wasn't impressive when he got an HBO shot in 2011 against Ray Austin on one of Don King's crappy events, but he changed the tune of many when he completely destroyed Chris Arreola this past April in his return to the big network. 6'2" with an 80-inch reach, Stiverne has more compact power than Fury, but may have a harder time being a physical match for Klitschko. If nothing else, Fury can lean on Wladimir when they get in close, as Wladimir isn't exactly against a good old-fashioned hug, and use his weight to tire Klitschko. Stiverne mostly has to fight his way in and fight when he gets there, and we've seen plenty of decent heavyweights try and fail at that. For now, it would appear Stiverne's focus will be on a mandatory rematch with Arreola for the now-vacant WBC belt, which Vitali has given up.

Deontay Wilder
American fight fans have been dying for a real heavyweight contender for years now, and not much has come up. Those same fans have every reason to believe that Alabama's Wilder (30-0, 30 KO) is another paper-thin promoter creation, a 2008 bronze medalist in Beijing who came into the pro ranks skinny and raw, and has packed on muscle and some technique to go with the Mack truck power in his right hand. The 6'7" Wilder has fought mostly exceptionally easy competition, but as I've said before, a lot of that was truly strategic. Wilder had a lot to learn when he turned pro, and he and his team accepted that and brought him along slowly. They've accepted any hype put behind them, but at the same time, they have not been against fighting on off-TV undercards in an attempt to develop not only Wilder's skills, but his body. In his pro debut five years ago, Wilder weighed 207 pounds. When he knocked out Nicolai Firtha in October, he tipped the scales at 224. That weighed has fluctuated up to about 230 over his journey, but it has been put on carefully. Wilder has been groomed, developed, and nurtured, and now it may be time to let the Doberman off the leash and find out what he's got at the higher levels. He's got the power to knock out anybody. Anybody. How he deals with real return fire is the question.

Mike Perez
One of the "Irish Cubans," Perez (20-0, 12 KO) is a 6'1" southpaw just starting to make his mark as a pro. The 28-year-old has a more awkward, true boxing style than most of his peers, and his November win over Magomed Abdusalamov was not only 10 rounds of brutality, but it was also a good win. Perez might not have the size or the tools to be a real challenge to Klitschko, but he's talented.

In order, most likely to beat Klitschko:

1.None of them. Well, let's be serious.
2.Kubrat Pulev. Most talented, smartest fighter.
3.Deontay Wilder. That one-punch power is so legit that he's got by far the best puncher's chance of the bunch.
4.Tyson Fury. I do think he could find himself with a late-rounds opportunity if he can wear down Wladimir's arms by laying on him. Wladimir's a big, strong dude, but Fury's really good at wearing opponents out with this tactic.
5.Bermane Stiverne. He can punch a little.
6.Mike Perez. Not a good enough puncher for me to even see the outside shot of him winning. Otherwise, just another 6'1" guy for Wladimir to jab all night and hug every four seconds.

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post #185 of 414 (permalink) Old 12-28-2013, 06:24 AM
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I always forget to look and see if this thread has been updated haha. martinez/Cotto will be a fun fight but this is not a good match up for Cotto, I was really hoping that we would get Canelo/Cotto that would be such a fun fight. This one will be as well, but I see martinez walking away with the win.

Sad to see Vitali step away from boxing, but at the same time I hope he does well with politics it could really help the country. And this means that Wlad can win that last title and be the undisputed champion.

As for the list, I agree with the order of who has the best chance of beating Wlad. Maybe move Stiverne ahead of Fury, but its hard to say since Fury has the height and reach that Stiverne does not have. I think Wilder is extremely sloppy but has that KO power, and is still not tested by a guy who is durable and won't go down in a couple rounds, this guy is Americas next hope for a HW champion, I see them building him slowly and taking out Wlad at the very end of his career maybe.

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I LOVE that they included Perez. I've been watching Perez for a long time, and about 3 years ago I was dying for him to become eligible to Fury's Irish HW title. It'll be cool to see Garcia and Acosta get the same recognition sometime.

At the same time, Perez and Fury don't stand a chance. Wilder might...in 6 years.

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With Pawel Kolodziej dropping out as the opponent for Ilunga Makabu on February 1 in Monaco, when Gennady Golovkin headlines against Osumanu Adama, Nathan Cleverly has stepped in for what is a very dangerous fight as he looks to make his mark as a cruiserweight following August's brutal loss to Sergey Kovalev in Cleverly's final fight at light heavyweight.

Cleverly (26-1, 12 KO) hasn't fought since he was overpowered by Kovalev and lost his WBO light heavyweight title, a bubble-bursting reality check that was followed by the fighter giving himself and his performance an honest look-over, considering his future in the sport, and deciding to return at cruiserweight for another go at a world title. Against Makabu, he'll look to secure the interim WBA belt, which would put him right in line for such an opportunity.

Makabu (15-1, 14 KO) is no joke, though, and this is an ambitious first fight at the new weight for Cleverly. After losing his pro debut back in 2008, Makabu has gone 15-0. He's shown some real ability in recent fights against Dmytro Kucher and Eric Fields, and though he has a fairly empty record overall, he passes the eye test, at least.

Is Cleverly taking too big a risk as he moves up?
Cleverly has a problem with a heavy-hitter so goes back UP to CW????

Not seeing the logic there. Lots of CW fighters would give him fits out there!

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Liam Neeson will narrate a feature-length documentary on Manny Pacquiao, coming this spring.

Coming this spring, Manny Pacquiao will be the subject of a feature-length documentary titled simply Manny, narrated by Academy Award nominated actor Liam Neeson. Check out the trailer above, and here's a quick summary on the film:

"Manny" is an inspirational tale of a man who overcame insurmountable odds to become one of the most loved and respected athletes of all time. From a starving teenager who fought to feed his family, to a Congressman working tirelessly to improve the lives of his people, "Manny" is a hard hitting feature length documentary film that explores the many triumphs and tribulations of Filipino boxing sensation Manny Pacquiao. The film is narrated by Liam Neeson and directed by Ryan Moore and Academy Award winner Leon Gast ("When We Were Kings"). "Manny" features original music by Lorne Balfe (Inception, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Sherlock Holmes) and Chad Hugo (The Neptunes/NERD) with Yardnoise and interviews by Mark Wahlberg, Jimmy Kimmel, Jeremy Piven, Oscar De La Hoya, and other notable celebrities.

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So in seeing CupCake's sig (and ny my avy), I thought I should check up to see if Pacman has a fighter arranged. I google his name.

"Mayweather: Manny is getting desperate...Mayweather says he is in no rush to fight Pacquiao".

So Manny is "desperate" to fight Mayweather.
Mayweather is in "no rush" to fight Pacquiao.

I still would like to see anyone in the world defending Mayweather here.

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post #190 of 414 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 06:13 AM
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I generally don't pay too much attention to the whole Pacquiao/Mayweather debate anymore, both guys have interesting matchups possible I try not to get distracted from what is actually going on with them, instead of what could possibly be.

Manny and Roach are looking for a rematch with Bradley, I hope that works out.

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