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Mayweather/Khan could've sold out Wembley, doubt they'd actually use all of the venue or you'd be talking close to 90k-100k people, which you'd need P4P legends to sell out IMO.

iS "starched" a KO? or a brutal beating??? I have no idea.

Anywho...JCC also won this past weekend, the most wasted talent in Boxing, he looked like shite!
 
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Cesar Chavez jnr is a fat wasted talent bum who is merely a big embarrassment to his legendary dad. it's not as if he was expected to be that good like his dad but he is so lazy and tubby he didn't even try to become great.
 
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So I had a big debate over on ESB. I'll just quote what I said over there and see what the thoughts are. It's in relation to Pacquiao's "decline", which I find to be completely non existent.

Clydebank Blitz said:
We've been hearing about this for a while, and I honestly don't have any idea of what people mean by this. In which way is Pacquiao on the decline?

Now, I did see the uninteresting fights, but I think you really have to look at how his opponent's were fighting. Pacquiao looks amazing against once style; an opponent who comes forward and looks for timing and hooks.

I'll look at the opponents since he became a "superstar", which really started from the DLH fight.

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Oscar De La Hoya - Used an all round game. Would have wanted to push the pace, but was unable to keep coming forward after the pressure of Pac. Pacquiao looked great.

Ricky Hatton - A guy known for gritting his teeth, coming forward and trading hooks. Pacquiao looked great.

Miguel Cotto - See Hatton. Pacquiao looked great.

Joshua Clottey - Hid behind his guard and wouldn't really open up for a punch. Pacquiao looked okay.

Antonio Margarito - Walked Pacquiao down at all times and never took a step back. Pacquiao looked great.

Shane Mosely - Ran away the entire fight and refused to engage. Pacquiao looked okay.

Juan Manuel Marquez (3) - Stayed on the back foot and looked for counters. Didn't really come forward and was able to notch ahead on points. Pacquiao looked okay at best.

Timothy Bradley (1) - Stayed on the back foot the entire time. Pacquiao was able to land on him but the shots weren't huge or clean. Pacquiao looked okay.

Juan Manuel Marquez (4) - Some slight adjustments on the feet meant that Pacquaio was able to negate JMM's previous tactics. JMM was dragged into a fight as a result, and both men went toe to toe . [IMO for this one] Pacquiao looked great.

Brandon Rios - One dimensional boxer who comes forwards and looks for hooks. Worse version of Hatton/Cotton. I have no idea why Pac gets any abuse for the performance in this, again I felt Pacquiao looked great.

Timothy Bradley (2) - Bradley got quickly frustrated from the speed of Pacquiao catching him off guard. He started coming forward and throwing huge hooks. Pacquiao looked great.

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Whenever Pacquiao looked bad, it was because his opponent was doing something more than coming forward and looking for a big shot (something us Pacquiao fans have to take into account with the fabled Mayweather clash).

Now that Pacquiao's opponents are coming forward looking for big hooks again, Pac is looking awesome. He looked slightly bad because he had Mosley, JMM and Bradley in a row (and then the JMM knockout loss).

To me, Pacquiao looks as good now as he ever has before. To some people that's a bad thing of course, but all I'm talking about is the "decline", which imo is non existent.
 
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I don't know about anything with a decline I don't know that I ever scored a pac v jmm for pac so I wasn't shocked when he lost so maybe I didn't see that knock out the same way everyone else did. So I'm not looking for signs he's dropped off.

I think he's just not as skilled a boxer as everyone thought he was. The guys he was beating up were guys everyone knew could get beat up so I'd say the "decline" is more of an exposure. He's a good boxer but people were talking goat at one point and it's not the case he's a fast hard puncher but his technical game is lacking when a guy refuses to trade.

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#232 ·
In the second JMM fight, Pac made adjustments to his feet and kept himself on the outside of JMM's foot. JMM got frustrated, and did the stupid thing (like Bradley did in the recent fight) and wanted to trade shots with Pac. POnly difference was, JMM was an absolute animal. That first KD for JMM is so underrated, it was HUGE.

Besides that, Pac just doesn't have the best fights in the world unless the guys are engaging. Put him in there with Garcia or Maidana, and he looks like he has at his absolute best. I don't feel that anything was exposed because I feel he looked awesome against two top level guys in Rios and Bradley.

They are talking about a match with Canelo, which would be insanely interesting.
 
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