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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 09-18-2011, 10:52 AM
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I found the fight on some torrent, downloaded, watched, then i remembered why i quit watching that sport.

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post #22 of 39 (permalink) Old 09-18-2011, 12:44 PM
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I say it was poetic justice, and Ortiz looked like an amateur in the ring. You NEVER take your eyes off your opponent with your hands down especially after you blatantly headbutt him because you're frustrated that he's slipping more than half of your punches. Mayweather was going to comfortably win the match, but I'm sure he wasn't intending for it to go down like that. He was landing a higher percentage of his shots and he had more ring control against an aggressive power puncher. I say it was justified. That headbutt could have caused Mayweather not be able to finish the match. The cut lip could have been very serious.

P.S. and lets not act like there haven't been "cheap shots" immediately after glove touches in MMA. I can name a few accounts where there have been blatant cheap shots in MMA.
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How was he complimenting Mayweather, he insisted on talking about the cheap shot, even though May tried to dodge around it. May's a prick though through and through. Larry is just a tool and needs to retire.

That fight wasn't one sided though it was too short to tell, I gave Ortiz round 2 and thought he was winning rd 4 until the headbutt of frustration. May won rounds 1 and 3, and was certainly more accurate of the two.
His last words before Floyd went off were something like, "You were controlling the fight, you were aggressive ..."

Maybe he was about to say something Mayweather wouldn't like, but he didn't get that far before Floyd freaked out.

Just saying it was ironic that Floyd goes nuts when he's actually saying something positive about him.
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Mayweather way too egotistical to see it that way and thats why he blew up. He's a blowhard.

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That fight wasn't one sided though it was too short to tell, I gave Ortiz round 2 and thought he was winning rd 4 until the headbutt of frustration. May won rounds 1 and 3, and was certainly more accurate of the two.
Dunno what fight you were watching but Mayweather certainly wasn't losing rd 4, outlanded Ortiz 27-9 and power punches were 24-9 Mayweather, the fight was all Mayweather IMO and Ortiz started showing signs of desperation with the headbutt's.

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But yeah, stupid end to the fight, feel a li'l sorry for Ortiz. Mayweather wont ever step up to Pacquiao
I really don't understand how anyone can feel sorry for Ortiz, there was 2 incidents where he deliberately used his head....if you're gonna play the dirty game dont try playing the "im sorry" bullsh*t when ya really not.
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post #26 of 39 (permalink) Old 09-18-2011, 04:42 PM
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Mayweather is the older, wiser and definitely better fighter than Ortiz. I'm positive he would've won that one either way.

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Larry Merchant has always been a retard, can't stand his senile ass. But Mayweather is a punk for stepping to him like that. He is right though Larry talks mad shit during in interview and gets away with it all the time.

Mayweather is one slick dude, that was such a sucker punch but Ortiz is dumb for letting his guard down.
Larry talks mad shit? I have to say props to him for asking the tough questions that every single paying fan was asking themselves.

Mayweather ducked his question twice by first thanking god, and then thanking the fans for coming out and buying PPV. I puke in my mouth every time an athlete thanks god for their victory. I'm glad Merchant called him "...a promoter, but we're now talking to you as a prize fighter."

That being said, I can't stand Merchant taking 45 seconds to ask a simple question.

Boxing is old... Don King, Larry Merchant, the blind, senile referee in that fight. Boxing needs to get younger if they want to retain what few fans they still have.
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The headbutt was bizarre and the sucker punch was even more bizarre because the ref counted it as a real knock down. I was hoping they would give Ortiz a chance to recover then resume the fight.
It was a real knock down. The referee restarted the fight, but then took off his eyes of the fighters to communicate with the officials outside the ring (maybe to make sure the clock was restarted or that they noted the point deduction). It was a bad referee job, but he clapped his hands to signal the boxers to continue the fight, so it was a legal knock down. There was a second official outside the ring who also immediately started to count, so there was no controversy whether the fight was started again.

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I really don't understand how anyone can feel sorry for Ortiz, there was 2 incidents where he deliberately used his head....if you're gonna play the dirty game dont try playing the "im sorry" bullsh*t when ya really not.
Yep, he was even warned before and that final headbutt wasn't any soft smothering one in the clinch, but he literally jumped head first into Mayweather's face.
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Looking at the compubox numbers you are right, Mayweather did land more punches in the 4th round, I guess it looked as if Ortiz landed some power shots but I guess they were slipped (hit elbows and shoulders etc..).

And yeah for years Larry has always been that way, taking god forsaken time to ask one question. His wrap up with him looking down at the floor and looking up also annoys the crap out of me.

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I don't feel bad for Ortiz but two douchebags don't make the other any less of a douchebag. Mayweather didn't need to take a cheap shot. Ortiz was desperate and frustrated and because of Mayweather's cheap shot his win will always have that asterix next to it. He tainted a win that was already in the books.




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