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yep.


Another option would be to throw a knee to the small ribs on the side?
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Another option would be to throw a knee to the small ribs on the side?
Yes that would defo work machida style, ouch! What a rib shot!

Cant wait to try these out in sparring!

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It's all about thinking 'why' you throw the shots you throw.

For instance, if instead of knocking you oponent side on, you opened their stance up, then the next shot should be a straight shot down the middle, whether it be with a knee or a punch, or an elbow.
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It's all about thinking 'why' you throw the shots you throw.

For instance, if instead of knocking you oponent side on, you opened their stance up, then the next shot should be a straight shot down the middle, whether it be with a knee or a punch, or an elbow.


Why would it be a straight shot? Is it because it would out range them and their now reduced in range straight shots?

Why a hook and not a straight rear cross after the lead trip when they are side on? Is it because their face is more vulnerable to a hook and if they have their hands up the rear cross wouldnt get them?

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If you think of the mechanics of a hook, you would be throwing the shot straight between your oponents guard so even if he has his hands up, chances are, he wont have them tight enough to block the hook. Potentially he could still block a straight shot.

As for throwing a straight after opening his stance, you've got similar reasons, however if you think, you should be throwing the straight as soon as your foot hits the floor after your kick so you are using your own momentum to power that straight down the middle.

does that make sense?
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If you think of the mechanics of a hook, you would be throwing the shot straight between your oponents guard so even if he has his hands up, chances are, he wont have them tight enough to block the hook. Potentially he could still block a straight shot.

As for throwing a straight after opening his stance, you've got similar reasons, however if you think, you should be throwing the straight as soon as your foot hits the floor after your kick so you are using your own momentum to power that straight down the middle.

does that make sense?

Perfect sense because his guard is likely open down the middle and the drop in weight (lead foot to floor) will add to the power of the rear cross.

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It will be hard to generate any kind of power throwing on the same side like that. It would score points but not likely to finish anyone. Plus you're going to be off balance.

I worked this a little this morning and I kept following it with a rear leg high kick and it was scoring pretty well. I'm assuming that for you to do this consistently your kicks are better than mine so you shouldn't have a problem with that. You can always throw a body kick as well. All though it maybe more difficult then I think as one of my favorite kick combos is the low kick air switch to low kick.

If you wanted to be really fancy, you could throw a spinning wheel kick with your lead leg using the force of the foot sweep coming back to spin. I did that once when I got a really clean trip and had to pull off to avoid heel kicking my partner in the face.

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It will be hard to generate any kind of power throwing on the same side like that. It would score points but not likely to finish anyone. Plus you're going to be off balance.

I worked this a little this morning and I kept following it with a rear leg high kick and it was scoring pretty well. I'm assuming that for you to do this consistently your kicks are better than mine so you shouldn't have a problem with that. You can always throw a body kick as well. All though it maybe more difficult then I think as one of my favorite kick combos is the low kick air switch to low kick.

If you wanted to be really fancy, you could throw a spinning wheel kick with your lead leg using the force of the foot sweep coming back to spin. I did that once when I got a really clean trip and had to pull off to avoid heel kicking my partner in the face.

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Thanks mate I appreciate you trying that out and getting back to me!Ive got lots of follow ups now so im really happy!
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It will be hard to generate any kind of power throwing on the same side like that. It would score points but not likely to finish anyone. Plus you're going to be off balance.

I worked this a little this morning and I kept following it with a rear leg high kick and it was scoring pretty well. I'm assuming that for you to do this consistently your kicks are better than mine so you shouldn't have a problem with that. You can always throw a body kick as well. All though it maybe more difficult then I think as one of my favorite kick combos is the low kick air switch to low kick.

If you wanted to be really fancy, you could throw a spinning wheel kick with your lead leg using the force of the foot sweep coming back to spin. I did that once when I got a really clean trip and had to pull off to avoid heel kicking my partner in the face.

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This. You want be throwing you strikes from alternate sides.
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Ok in MMA/ Muay Thai I use a lead wing chun/karate leg sweep to their lead ankle (Im southpaw they are orthodox)

and Every-time if it dosnt completely trip them over it RUINS their stance makes them very vulnerable turns them around partially etc

Well I dont know what to follow it up with strike wise, because im still very far away even tho they are momentarily vulnerable.

What would you recommend?
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1. Right leg kick
2. Straight left.
3. Move out of range or lateral movement.

1. Right leg kick
2. Straight left.
3. Move out of range or lateral movement.

1. Right leg kick
2. Fake the straight left.
3. Right hook / overhand right.

The general principle would be to use your straight left after the kick as a range finder & to see what their reaction will be.

Your overhand (lead) right and right hook will usually have longer range than your sraight left.

If you throw the same combo the first few times and your punch comes up short by a small amount, you can probably land lead overhand / hook that has a better range.

It might also lure someone into a false sense of security where they forget your lead hand has a longer range and cause them to misjudge the distance.

Anyways, I don't know if this would really work or if a lead leg kick is a good setup for other moves, but if you try it let me know how it goes...
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