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MMAxOwen 10-31-2012 04:16 PM

Lead Hook
 
Hi Guys,

I need some help with my lead hook. I have set up a camera and I have filmed my lead hook. I am 100% happy with the technique. I pivot my feet correctly, I rotate my hips 90 degrees, I drive hard toward my target with my hips then I uncork my shoulders with my left arm bent at 90 degrees and deliver my shot with my first 2 knuckles. I have look at it over and over again and it looks and feels 100% correct.

What I need help with though is that I still generate more power with an arm punch, not using my body, with my lag hook. My lag hook has a great "snap" to it and when I throw it on a heavy bag or on mitts you can hear and see the power but nothing close to it on my lead hook. Furthermore, when I throw my lead hook I experience pain in my first 2 knuckles, elbow and anterior deltoid.

Please can anyone give me their opinion on what I may be doing wrong and what I can do to increase power on the hook,

MADDSNIPER 10-31-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MMAxOwen (Post 1643413)
Hi Guys,

I need some help with my lead hook. I have set up a camera and I have filmed my lead hook. I am 100% happy with the technique. I pivot my feet correctly, I rotate my hips 90 degrees, I drive hard toward my target with my hips then I uncork my shoulders with my left arm bent at 90 degrees and deliver my shot with my first 2 knuckles. I have look at it over and over again and it looks and feels 100% correct.

What I need help with though is that I still generate more power with an arm punch, not using my body, with my lag hook. My lag hook has a great "snap" to it and when I throw it on a heavy bag or on mitts you can hear and see the power but nothing close to it on my lead hook. Furthermore, when I throw my lead hook I experience pain in my first 2 knuckles, elbow and anterior deltoid.

Please can anyone give me their opinion on what I may be doing wrong and what I can do to increase power on the hook,


can we see the video bro? do you use a very cut stance, perhaps a more square stance would allow more rotation hence more power.

MMAxOwen 10-31-2012 06:47 PM

Video is very large and still in raw format. I will do some editing and render it and upload to youtube. I am fighting from a very square stance. I am an MMA striker so a square stance is required as it is a counter to the takedown. Wide, I would say shoulder width apart then lag foot is at about a 45 degree angle and hips are fairly square.

From rimshot range I would open a combo with a lead hook, usually set up off the right hand or feint with the right which means the left shoulder and hip is coiled to unwind and deliver a powerful hook. I am wondering if shoulder strength is not holding me back. I started boxing fairly late. I think I have and advantage on the lag side because of golf and several other bat sports where you have to clear the left hip and really drive the right side into the ball.

MADDSNIPER 11-01-2012 04:22 PM

one other thing, i know my right hand/leg is alot stronger/faster than my left, genetics really. have you tried the same combos in a southpaw stance

MMAxOwen 11-01-2012 04:34 PM

I have indeed and I understand that my right is much stronger than my left however, I have worked so hard at my jab that I throw it almost harder than I throw my jab with my right when I change to southpaw but then my left cross is very weak. Understandably so as I do not have the technique on the left cross and not to interested to work on it because I will never use it in a fight. What bothers me most is the pain I experience in my shoulder upon impact. If I could trade I would swap my very big right hand for a left hook like Frazier.

Might just take some work... Any good heavy bag drills to improve? Do you recommend practicing the technique slowly until I have the muscle memory down and then speed it up gradually?

Thanks for you input guys

MADDSNIPER 11-02-2012 03:49 PM

im probably not the best to answer your last questions, but i know ive heard freddy roach say multiple times that speed can be trained in anybody. guess the real question is how much.

if you look at ricky hatton his left hand is alot slower than his right and im sure he has trained it alot, like i mentioned earlier, genetics.

one thought: you could perhaps try weighted gloves alough ive heard some people say they do more harm than good

MMAxOwen 11-02-2012 04:34 PM

I have been using 7lb dumbells working on the jab and can honestly say that I think it has really helped so maybe just work with them on my lead hook as well. I feel that I need more speed in releasing both my body and hand through the punch. I know Roach also said that he would have swapped his cross for a better lead hook and he has a mean lead hook.

Maybe I should just switch to southpaw and work on my left cross instead. HAHAHA, Seems easier

MADDSNIPER 11-03-2012 08:36 AM

you knows man, that decision worked great for franklin in his career, especially the nate quarry fight regards the left cross

MMAxOwen 11-04-2012 03:21 AM

Still one of the best MMA 1 punch knockouts ever. He folded Nate in half. Was brutal!!!

IronMan 12-08-2012 10:14 PM

I'm concerned less with the power in my own punches at the moment, and so haven't been using the more common drills. Outside of the more obvious stuff [using a weight for some arbitrary number of repetitions or using something to create some pressure, like plyo rope] I've found that one of the best ways to build power has been to work the same punch repeatedly on a double-bag.

Timing has a lot to do with power when we're dealing with the quicker, more technical punches off of the head, and often just focussing on working on getting the timing with the punch right increases the hand speed, which improves the power. One of the things that I've been drilling a lot the last six months has been just trying to increase my technical proficiency and my hand speed, rather than focussing on power. As a result of both, my power has increased a lot.

Video would be good, as has been previously noted.


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