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bloodknuck 03-30-2007 05:38 AM

do i have to be tall to be good at striking?
 
Hi, I'm 5'6, 145 lbs, very strong lifting capacity,
and i just started sparring, starting of with boxing.

i got my ass handed to me but not too bad, i got some pretty decent hits off. my sparring partner is about 6'0 and i found it pretty hard to get into his striking range without getting hit.
i assume this is pretty normal but my question is...

am i screwed if i decide to stand up against people who are taller than me?

im also thinking about moving up to 155, should i do this? or stay at this weight?

spearsoldier 03-30-2007 11:50 AM

I also have a similar concern, since I am the same height as you. To make it worse, I am around 175 right now.

First off, I am not super technical just yet, I am more of a ground person, so striking is new to me. I was sparring my brother(without instructor) and he is like 5'8" but he weighs like 155. I was getting owned; every time he would jab, I would get hit if I didnt dodge, and every time I would swing I would miss him. And if I did duck his jab, and threw my own, he would just throw another jab and hit me(prob due to his speed being lighter).

My strategy against him was to clinch up and throw hooks to the liver which had him down pretty quickly. Sadly, this only worked against him, I am sure a more experienced fighter would be able to defend that.

Any tips?

bloodknuck 03-30-2007 11:56 AM

that sucks..the art of striking has fascinated me, but shorter people like us have it much harder..im stronger than alot of guys bigger than me but it doesnt mean anything if i cant keep up standing w/ them..
hermes franca is about the same height as me, but ive seen him knockout people taller than him..

do you think the ground game would suit me more?

kaiser1041 03-30-2007 12:13 PM

you also have a low centre of gravity with adds to the power of ur punches as a shorter fighter you have to get in very close to win in the exchanges

Zapatista 03-30-2007 12:16 PM

Now I don't have experience, but from seeing some Muay Thai fights, if you don't have the reach you need to have the speed. Not just punching/kicking speed, but you need to be able to move around. You'll also need conditioning so that you'll be able to constantly move around for the whole fight.

As for moving up in weight class, you can try it and see how you like it and if you don't, then you can move back down. But really, at 145 lbs, there aren't going to be many tall guys in the weight class, so it won't be as big a problem. The only problem is when you train with somebody not in your weight class.

brief 03-30-2007 12:30 PM

It's all about ring savy. You know the style that a taller fighter is going to use. He's going to keep you on the end of his reach. The shorter fighter must use his legs and superior agilty to find holes in the defense of his taller opponent. In MMA it's not nearly as tough as it is in boxing. In MMA you only need to be competent enough so that you don't get blown away before you get in. In boxing after you get in, you can't hold him and you get separated quickly. However, even in boxing shorter fighters have been awesome. A shorter fighter NEEDS to go to a boxing gym. Lots of MMA fighters have chin up and hands low. A taller fighter gets away with this BS more than a shorter fighter can.

bloodknuck 03-30-2007 12:51 PM

i think i know what you guys mean, i want to stay at 145, ive been lifting weights w/ strength training heavily emphasized, so ive been getting lots of strength gains, yet i stay at this weight..

the only thing that motivates me to move to 155 is the fact that i reckon my frame at that weight would be monster like at 5'6, and also the fact that theres no feather weight divison (145) in the UFC

brief 03-30-2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodknuck
i think i know what you guys mean, i want to stay at 145, ive been lifting weights w/ strength training heavily emphasized, so ive been getting lots of strength gains, yet i stay at this weight..

the only thing that motivates me to move to 155 is the fact that i reckon my frame at that weight would be monster like at 5'6, and also the fact that theres no feather weight divison (145) in the UFC

There is in the WEC and there will be in the UFC when the names get bulit up. It's like a big realty show.

bloodknuck 03-30-2007 01:00 PM

i guess i can see that happening..
id' like to get into small(er) shows like that to get more experience, unfortunately i live in canada, city of kamloops..so it might be hard for me to reach my aspirations.
do u guys have any ideas of what i can do?

brief 03-30-2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodknuck
i guess i can see that happening..
id' like to get into small(er) shows like that to get more experience, unfortunately i live in canada, city of kamloops..so it might be hard for me to reach my aspirations.
do u guys have any ideas of what i can do?

Train hard, then go on a road trip, go to some gyms in bigger towns. See if you can catch somebody's interest. Be prepared to fight, or at least train with anybody you can. Remember lots of head movement with a taller fighter. Look at Tyson when he was young. He tore up taller guys. Unlike boxing, when you get inside, you can hold and hit. Long arms are a disadvantage inside, they need punching room. Move around alot to get in then your shorter arms have the advantage. Getting in is footwork.


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