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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-23-2007, 01:00 AM
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I agree with your insights regarding the sidekick's range. I don't find myself throwing it alot. Again, I find it to be a high-payoff high-risk technique, and I believe those are to be used sparringly. The context, in which I find it to be most successful, is chasing after being set up with a combination.

Something about the chamber, though; someone who is flexible and practices this can deliver that kick either high or low, choosing the level at the last instant. Personally, I believe that all kicks should be chambered high (if you're going to chamber) for the sake of getting more power -- and decieving opponents. But, as Onganju did mention, there are many ways to jam a sidekick. Luckily, if they're backing up, its very difficult to change directions quick enough. =D

Also, the prospect of the next generations of MMA utilizing such techniques is exciting, but... what's the mongolian chop?! x_x;
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what i have found is side kicks are good for a person who is staying at a constant range and trading with you. its not good if that person is being very agressive and constantly crowding and moving forward and going for take downs etc. i feel that way about kicks in general. you see it even in tae kwon do ,where they will jam eachother and clinch . ive just noticed when one person is putting a lot of effort in crowding you and moving forward ,kicks in general become much less effective.
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Hehe... The "Mongolian Chop" is actually an attack that was made famous in Pro Wrestling, where the attacker raises both hands over his head and chops down on the person on both sides of their neck, head, shoulders, etc. Think about Capt. Kirk's famous "double neck chop" but with more wind-up and you'll know exactly what I mean. Well, the legendary Kazushi Sakuraba showed that it is a viable move for MMA. During his 90-minute bout with Royce Gracie (HL vid here), he made use of it while pounding away on Royce in his guard. He would punch straight down, and when Royce covered up, he would hit him with the chop. When Royce covered up for the straight punches, he would hit him with the mongolian chop on both sides of his head/neck/ears.

Sakuraba also showed that jumping stomps and fist drops were viable in that match too. It just so happens that the guys at Chute Boxe took those examples and turned them into frighteningly artful mainstays to their Pride FC arsenal.

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Mongolian Chop

Well, I'll be sure to try that out next time I'm in a ground and pound situation.

But man...having had this discussion, I'm now very eager to see someone get sidekicked in the face at an MMA event -- just 'cause no one would expect that to happen.
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I think MMA is still evolving at a very rapid pace and eventually there will be a guy good enough kicking that he can land those type of shots and good enough on the ground that he isn't terrified to get taken down.
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