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Old 07-19-2007, 07:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No its not saying that but if a technique was great for MMA competition then people would adopt that technique into their training.
No matter how much you think MMA fighting in cooperates all the fighting styles in the world it doesn't. MMA fighting only has few fighting styles that are practiced wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Muay-Thai, Sambo and amateur boxing.
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He didn't say that it did, he's actually saying that it doesn't incorporate all the fighting styles in the world by telling us that Kung Fu wouldn't be used in MMA as it isn't effective in the sport.

He also didn't say that the best fighters are MMA fighters. So stop using "facts" against him that aren't even there. You make me laugh. I'm not surprised you're "infamous around these parts".
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Kung Fu is only as effective as the practitioner is at understanding/applying it. The few that compete in MMA with it do not understand the depth, application, or theory.

The main comparison problem is the radically different principles in internal soft style Kung Fu. From the outside Dragon Stance appears slow, unbalanced and of poor defense. With the legs, hips, and feet as they are you can explode in any direction very quickly while maintaining root and balance. I can almost guarantee that you have never seen someone move faster.

I will hopefully be proving the effectiveness in the octagon, I may have a fight in September and/or October.

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Old 07-20-2007, 01:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I will hopefully be proving the effectiveness in the octagon, I may have a fight in September and/or October.
You should tape it and post it up here. I'm interested to see the effectiveness.
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Kung Fu is only as effective as the practitioner is at understanding/applying it. The few that compete in MMA with it do not understand the depth, application, or theory.

The main comparison problem is the radically different principles in internal soft style Kung Fu. From the outside Dragon Stance appears slow, unbalanced and of poor defense. With the legs, hips, and feet as they are you can explode in any direction very quickly while maintaining root and balance. I can almost guarantee that you have never seen someone move faster.

I will hopefully be proving the effectiveness in the octagon, I may have a fight in September and/or October.
Kung Fu could be very good, but I think MMA rules limit a lot of its effectiveness. There is no small joint manipulation in MMA, and I think pressure points are off limits as well? My dad's friend did a lot of Kung Fu and Chin Na, and he did weird grips on my arm and I couldn't move, but I don't think you can do that kind of stuff in MMA.
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No matter how much you think MMA fighting in cooperates all the fighting styles in the world it doesn't. MMA fighting only has few fighting styles that are practiced wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Muay-Thai, Sambo and amateur boxing.
you list amateur boxing like it is different than pro-boxing.
and if you think boxing is greater than mma, why even come on these boards?
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ONe thing I dont think anyone has pointed out is that your lead hand is pretty weak and therefore your jab wont have much strength behind it. I remember in one of his videos Bas points out that he likes to actually stand with his feet a little wider than most stances, this allows a nice hip movement for your jab and follow it with a nice straight. Try it, stand with your feet in a straight line and try a jab, there is no power there, now widen your stance up and use your hips in the jab, a lot more power is there.
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