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southpaw447 08-04-2007 10:48 AM

In your opinion where does punching power come from?
 
I think there have been many disputes on where punching power comes from.

For a fact I know that it is mostly genetic. But if someone were to try to develop it more how would they do so?

I was at the gym the other day and this idiot kid was trying to tell me how to improve punching power. Now let me throw this out there that I don't exactly posses a Chuck Liddell 1 hitter quitter but I can throw a pretty solid cross and I focus more on my techinique and throwing effective combos rather than just looking for that one punch Knockout.

Anyways he was telling me about this fight he got into with 3 guys (which sounded like a Steven Segal movie) but I listened to what he had to say anyway. He told me that punching power is developed in the shoulders. he showed me some exercieses and told me if I did them enough I would eventually be able to "Lay People out"

I felt like saying no you're wrong it's genetic and it's developed from your core but I wasn't sure myself.

I know that when you throw a punch your basically using your whole body not just your arms or your shoulders.

What are your opinions on how punching power is developed?

Kin 08-04-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by southpaw447
I think there have been many disputes on where punching power comes from.

For a fact I know that it is mostly genetic. But if someone were to try to develop it more how would they do so?

I was at the gym the other day and this idiot kid was trying to tell me how to improve punching power. Now let me throw this out there that I don't exactly posses a Chuck Liddell 1 hitter quitter but I can throw a pretty solid cross and I focus more on my techinique and throwing effective combos rather than just looking for that one punch Knockout.

Anyways he was telling me about this fight he got into with 3 guys (which sounded like a Steven Segal movie) but I listened to what he had to say anyway. He told me that punching power is developed in the shoulders. he showed me some exercieses and told me if I did them enough I would eventually be able to "Lay People out"

I felt like saying no you're wrong it's genetic and it's developed from your core but I wasn't sure myself.

I know that when you throw a punch your basically using your whole body not just your arms or your shoulders.

What are your opinions on how punching power is developed?

In part, punching power is genetic, but not entirely. Someone may be born with a certain capacity for punching power. However, if they do not punch with good form, they will never reach their full potential.

Technique-wise, I agree that the power comes from the core. Focusing on the hips yields best results, as you'll automatically use your legs when turning your hips. Turning the shoulder definitely helps as well. But, for some reason, you could only do one... obviously, the shoulder isn't top priority.

A factor that people sometimes overlook, as well, is looseness. For not only does rigidity in striking greatly mitigate power, it also slows the techniques down considerably.

And finally, there's punching through the target. Someone can be as genetically gifted as they want, but if they don't punch through the target, they might as well have noodle-arms.

pauly_j 08-04-2007 12:08 PM

Bike crunches and hindu pressups make for heavy bombs.

kishiro 08-04-2007 01:57 PM

YouTube - Martial Science - The Knock-Out Punch

taiwnezboi 08-05-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kishiro

hehe, I watched that too and I agree with it. Kinetic linking. It's a principle taught in many martial arts. "Power comes from the earth" or whatever.

And Chuck Liddell drops bombs b/c he swings wide. He's basically throwing refined haymakers. That's why he likes keeping his hands low. It's improper technique and gets him in trouble against good strikers.

nooblift 08-07-2007 04:13 PM

I saw a big difference in power from working my vlats (sometimes called your wings) and shoulders. Getting good form down and beating a punching bag as hard as you can helps in my opinion. Oh and like a few people have said already, Punch through your target.

obscura1560 08-07-2007 07:20 PM

Your "vlats"? What?! You mean Latissimus Dorsi? Or something else? Cause I don't see how that'd effect punching power?

A-5best 08-08-2007 12:53 AM

Its all in the hips...its all in the hips. The good punch starts with a solid base and works its way up, you snap your hips which turns your whole body and forces you to punch thru the target and gets your entire body weight behind it. Keep your hand somewhat loose until impact, a loose muscle is a fast muscle.

While shoulders obviously play a pary your hips are the most crucial part to the punch, along with technique you need to turn your hips in order to hit hard. Try hitting a bag with just shoulders and arms, dont move your hips. Now do it using your hips, theres a huge difference.

wukkadb 08-08-2007 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by A-5best
Its all in the hips...its all in the hips. The good punch starts with a solid base and works its way up, you snap your hips which turns your whole body and forces you to punch thru the target and gets your entire body weight behind it. Keep your hand somewhat loose until impact, a loose muscle is a fast muscle.

While shoulders obviously play a pary your hips are the most crucial part to the punch, along with technique you need to turn your hips in order to hit hard. Try hitting a bag with just shoulders and arms, dont move your hips. Now do it using your hips, theres a huge difference.

Wtf, someone posting in the Technique forums who actually knows what he's talking about? :praise01:

kishiro 08-08-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by A-5best
Its all in the hips...its all in the hips. The good punch starts with a solid base and works its way up, you snap your hips which turns your whole body and forces you to punch thru the target and gets your entire body weight behind it. Keep your hand somewhat loose until impact, a loose muscle is a fast muscle.

While shoulders obviously play a pary your hips are the most crucial part to the punch, along with technique you need to turn your hips in order to hit hard. Try hitting a bag with just shoulders and arms, dont move your hips. Now do it using your hips, theres a huge difference.


nice, and the twist in the hand if your throwing straight is at the very end of the punch adding to the whip..

i used to turn my hand over when throwing hooks until the day i walked into a real gym and was taught to not turn my hand over when throwing hooks, due to the chance of broken hand if i clip with the last two knuckles


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