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Old 03-30-2008, 06:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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To ACTUALLY answer your question federlance, Iron Palm is similar to Iron Vest and Iron Groin technique. Iron Palm originates in the kung fu practices of Shaolin. It's basically hand conditioning, what do u do is take a bag of gravel (they start off with dried beans usually), put it on a hard surface. General rule is 100 strikes a day, each hand. Its important that you dont use too much force, relax your arm and drop your hand into the bag, exhaling each time. Use some force, but dont try and smash your hand down into it, this is the kung-fu way. quite soft compared to karate (hitting the maki-wara) but that will **** up your hands in the long run and give u arthritis and nerve damage. anyways, hit that thing at least 100 times each day, both hands, with your palms and with your knuckles, and edge if u want. after a couple months youll notice a difference, after a year you'll have really really ******* tough hands. also, rubbing dat dit jow is important, or at least hot water, but rub a lot. the circulation is important for rebuilding the tissue and making your hands strong
Thanx for a great post.Also a very informative one.
thanks again.
Listen, I never heard of Iron Vest or Iron Groin.These are completely new to me.
so:
1.What is Iron Vest? And how do they train it?
2.What is Iron Groin? And how do they train that?
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Thanx for a great post.Also a very informative one.
thanks again.
Listen, I never heard of Iron Vest or Iron Groin.These are completely new to me.
so:
1.What is Iron Vest? And how do they train it?
2.What is Iron Groin? And how do they train that?
Thanks again,
Ferdelance
there is a problem with this though.
I knew someone that tryed to do this hands of stone stuff and what they would do is take buckets of pebbles and jam their hands in there in there with thrust strikes.

the problem is that his had got extremely stiff and it got to the point where he couldn't even make a sandwich for himself.

and yes a palm strike is much stronger than a regular punch
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
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there is a problem with this though.
I knew someone that tryed to do this hands of stone stuff and what they would do is take buckets of pebbles and jam their hands in there in there with thrust strikes.

the problem is that his had got extremely stiff and it got to the point where he couldn't even make a sandwich for himself.

and yes a palm strike is much stronger than a regular punch
your freind wasnt patient enough and wasnt doing it right, would be my guess, i dont know what he was doing wrong but this is tested and true.

depends on what kind of punch, a regular hook? a regular jab? a regular cross?
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:42 PM   #44 (permalink)
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dude come on... dummest sh*t i heard

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aside from fighting bulls(wtf), how might one WIN in UFC? by beating the opponent senseless u silly freak. screw u and your chest palm strikes, ur witless mang.

ps. hwo many people u KO'd or seen KO'd with a PALM STRIKE TO THE CHEST? never, not a one...

the difference is in a street fight, you fight for your life, in UFC you at the end of the day you are ending the fight with both poeple alive... unless you talking bout ***** fighting, where people make up rules about how shit is illegal, but in a real street fight, its for survival, yea, im talking bout that take out the knives and those type of shit.

he never said its a knock out, its a friggin lead strike, if you dont want to be dirty, you knock the wind out of the dude with the chest shot, and hell freeze up even for a millisecond, also depends where on the chest, if its directly over the heart, you cant know him out and get him real ****ed up, like call the ambulance shit, and if you hit right at pressure point, its also a different story
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are palm strikes to the face legal in fight sports?

we do double palm strikes to the sternum and palm strikes to the face for self defense in tkd, but not usually in sparring. I suppose it would be allowed but that's just in the gym.
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the difference is in a street fight, you fight for your life, in UFC you at the end of the day you are ending the fight with both poeple alive... unless you talking bout ***** fighting, where people make up rules about how shit is illegal, but in a real street fight, its for survival, yea, im talking bout that take out the knives and those type of shit.

he never said its a knock out, its a friggin lead strike, if you dont want to be dirty, you knock the wind out of the dude with the chest shot, and hell freeze up even for a millisecond, also depends where on the chest, if its directly over the heart, you cant know him out and get him real ****ed up, like call the ambulance shit, and if you hit right at pressure point, its also a different story
But in MMA, without refs or stoppages, fights would often and in death or serious injury. That's what submissions are designed to do.
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in the movie "the last dragon" a kid kicks a white guy in the balls and he goes down.....later kicks a black guy in the balls and the kid hurt his foot.......and you hear a sound like he kicked iron.
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are palm strikes to the face legal in fight sports?

we do double palm strikes to the sternum and palm strikes to the face for self defense in tkd, but not usually in sparring. I suppose it would be allowed but that's just in the gym.
not sure but in Pancrase for example in Bas Rutten days it was all you could do, no fists to the face were allowed. and Bas used it quite well actually

open-palm strikes are quite effective, if you train them and know when and how to use it (as is everything else).
We did palm strikes to liver and spleen the other day wearing the belly pads. and i must tell you it hurts like hell, not mentioning that you just going to pee yourself if not expecting
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dude wawaweewa, but there ARE refs.. no disrespect, but there are refs.. have you ever seen a dude wearing white and black on your daily streetfights?
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What Is The Iron Palm? The Answer.

The Iron Palm is an ancient Chinese method of conditioning as well as striking. The ultimate goal of the practitioner is to be able to strike with the center of the palm with seemingly super-human results. In order for a person to be able to withstand the pressures that are put on a hand in this training, since the person studying the legitimate Iron Palm will intensify their potential tremendously, one must study the atual art from someone who is qualified, otherwise, permanent disfigurement can result. In 1985, I was the person responsible for lifting the veil of guarded secrecy on this art, and against the wishes of many Chinese Kung Fu masters, I published some of the secrets for this training method in Inside Kung Fu magazine. Unfortunately, after I did this, many "snake oil salesmen," came onto the scene trying to make money off of people who were genuinely seeking this knowledge. These egotistical frauds have been very successful in substituting wrong knowledge for the real thing, and I have seen too many people taken in by these unscrupulous operators, the end result being an entire movement of people who are blindly following these charlatans and spreading their dangerously damaging methods.
Once a person has conditioned their hands to take the stress of the power the palm is going to be capable of, they then have to learn the physics of proper breaking, the "Whip and Wave" Theory for enhancing power and delivery, and finally, they have to learn the advanced internal skills that show how to deliver a palm strike that can penetrate any protection an attacker might be wearing to send a powerful shock wave deep inside of the attacker's body. Advanced Iron Palm allows the practitioner to strike an attacker's chect and stop his heart, for example. Pressure points and accupuncture spots are learned to enhance the lethal nature of any palm strike delivered by the true Iron Palm. The art is a serious study and should be studied properly, or the results will not be what the student is seeking. I have finally put everything there is to know about the Iron Palm in a series of books that can be researced further at www.ultimateironpalm.com, or a person can leave questions which will be sent to me personally at correspondence@briangray.com . As I said many years ago when I wrote that first article for Inside Kung Fu magazine, I will always stay involved and help in any way that I can to make sure that this art is not abused by those who are simply out there to feed their own egos and in the end, do permanent damage to those unfortunate enough to be studying under dangerous imposters. The dangers of improper training are not to be taken lightly. These frauds hate me, because I have so often exposed their dangerous methods, so you will see that I am often the subject of their vitriole. I will only say this, any one who is studying the legitimate Iron Palm as taught in China has no reason to attack anything I say. If a person is atacking me, then you need to seriously consider putting some distance between you and that person, because they are showing you exactly what I have warned against. I stand by the truth. If you have questons, please feel free to contact me personally. I guarantee you, I will try to help.

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