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Old 12-26-2007, 05:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So when I'm doing focus mit/Thai pad drills, I often get a little frustrated at my lack of punching power. Although my trainer does agree that my punches are a little weak, he says to "focus more on speed, power will come with time". So I just want to know how others train, do you focus on speed over power in training? And what do you think is more important in a match, speedy punching or powerful haymakers?
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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yep the trainer is right train speed and power will come by time thats how i train to. and in a match i think speedy punching is better cuz for example if uhave speed and urfighting with a guy withpowerful punches before he can punch you with 1 power punch you can hit him 2 times.
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How long do you train? How tall/heavy are you? How old are you?
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When you're in his class, do what he says. But even then, it's better to have quick (normal) punches than powerful haymakers. Against a decent opponent, haymakers aren't very easy to land. You're going to need to set them up.. and even then...

Also, you could always work your haymakers on your own time. But its better to have the fundamentals down first. Or better yet, work your normal punches with speed and good technique and eventually they'll be fast and powerful.
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You need both speed and power to win a fight, that's important to remember. You can't get a KO if you're not quick enough to hit the guy, but you also can't get one if you don't have any power.

That said, speed and power are co-dependent. Basic physics says that F=ma (force = mass X acceleration). The speed of your punch will land with a force that equals its excelleration and the weight behind it.

If you throw faster punches, they will, as a result, do more damage.

Everywhere in the fight game, you need both.
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Thanks guys. It is always best to listen to your trainer, but I was just wondering. I'm not sure if I have K.O. power with my hands, I've staggered a few sparring mates before though. All I gotta say is thank goodness for roundhouse kicks, even a wiry schmuck like me can K.O. someone.

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Hmm trained 2x a week for about 8 months, went to college so I didn't train for a semester's length, and now I'm on a 5 week winter break and once again I train 2x a week.

5'11, 128 lbs., 18 years old. I also enjoy ice cream, and long walks on the beach.

EDIT* - messed up on my height. 5'8?? What the hell was I thinking, I'm 5'11.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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5'8, 128 lbs., 18 years old. I also enjoy ice cream, and long walks on the beach.
this is your problem, like other guys have said you need good mass behind a punch to get enough power, speed alone isnt going to cut it.

i suggest you start eating more and lift some weights, at 5'8 you should be weighing around 140+ pounds. if your looking to train specific muscles to get power in your punch, then focus on your chest, shoulders forearms and abdomen. biceps may make your arms look good, but you practically never use them, especially for striking. don't neglect your legs also, i know a few guys with huge upper bodies, but with skinny legs, i can't help but laugh at them sometimes.
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dude you're so light. I'm light for my age(16) 5'6-5'7 and i'm 130. Sometimes drop to 128 or rise to 134 tho..-_-' lol

But yea, try gaining mass while retaining or increasing speed at the same time and you'll get that ko power you need.
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this is your problem, like other guys have said you need good mass behind a punch to get enough power, speed alone isnt going to cut it.

i suggest you start eating more and lift some weights, at 5'8 you should be weighing around 140+ pounds. if your looking to train specific muscles to get power in your punch, then focus on your chest, shoulders forearms and abdomen. biceps may make your arms look good, but you practically never use them, especially for striking. don't neglect your legs also, i know a few guys with huge upper bodies, but with skinny legs, i can't help but laugh at them sometimes.
I messed up, I'm actually 5'11

And I know I know I know... everyone tells me to eat more and lift weights, like I haven't thought of that myself, I just don't friggin gain any weight! I'm lifting weights 3x a week and I eat 4 - 5 meals a day, and its like all that work goes down the black hole that is my metabolism. When my winter break is over I'll weigh myself, if I'm not over 130 lbs. I think I'll just call it a life and jump off a cliff.
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if your looking to train specific muscles to get power in your punch, then focus on your chest, shoulders forearms and abdomen. biceps may make your arms look good, but you practically never use them, especially for striking. don't neglect your legs also, i know a few guys with huge upper bodies, but with skinny legs, i can't help but laugh at them sometimes.
Thats true, your legs are very important as well. Thighs can give you good mass and strength, make sure you work them out just as much. Alot of people think workin the Pec Dec all day will give them Guns O' Steel, but you need a pretty decent core to generate any power.

I hate those dudes who go into the gym and just work their chests and biceps. Skinny Dudes > Top Heavy dudes.
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