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Old 03-29-2008, 01:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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-WTF is life force. who told u about this life force. where can u observe evidence of life force existing.
It's probably better to call it electromagnetic energy for people like you I suppose. Life force energy is how its supposed to be roughly translated. Kirlian or Aura photography (different methods of taking a photograph where 'life force energy' is visible), Google it.

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-There are 8 chakras, middle eastern origin having nothing to do with east asian ms most other people know, or are prepared to talk about.'chi'.
There are essentially 7 that most agree on. The extra one that you speak of is probably including one that's considered inverted & most people don't consider it a main point. You could claim there are 12 but then those are including yet smaller points, where do you stop? Since there's loads located all over the body.
Where did I say they had the same origin? I only said they believe the energy exists. If you're still claiming it to be completely different, explain why. You might find it's basically the same thing, maybe just different application.

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-Thousands of years ago people thought the world was flat, and jesus was the son of an imaginary god... what makes u think they are predisposed to secret knowledge?
That old chestnut. For a start, and I don't mean to start a religious riot here, Jesus said "I am the son of God, and we are all Brethren". Think about that for just a minute. Also, these are not really secrets. It's not the masonic order we're speaking about. If you actually take the time to look up this stuff you'll find lots of information on it. IMO when being brought up, we're conditioned to blot out a lot of our natural ability because society has deemed it either 'evil' or not in line with scientific research.
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-Magnetic sort of lines? your jsut trying to sound like u know what your talking about arent u.
Yes, magnetic sort of lines, some real technical stuff there eh. I don't proclaim to know everything about it, far from it. But I seem to be giving more information than it seems most either know, or are willing to post.
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It's probably better to call it electromagnetic energy for people like you I suppose. Life force energy is how its supposed to be roughly translated. Kirlian or Aura photography (different methods of taking a photograph where 'life force energy' is visible), Google it.

There are essentially 7 that most agree on. The extra one that you speak of is probably including one that's considered inverted & most people don't consider it a main point. You could claim there are 12 but then those are including yet smaller points, where do you stop? Since there's loads located all over the body.
Where did I say they had the same origin? I only said they believe the energy exists. If you're still claiming it to be completely different, explain why. You might find it's basically the same thing, maybe just different application.

That old chestnut. For a start, and I don't mean to start a religious riot here, Jesus said "I am the son of God, and we are all Brethren". Think about that for just a minute. Also, these are not really secrets. It's not the masonic order we're speaking about. If you actually take the time to look up this stuff you'll find lots of information on it. IMO when being brought up, we're conditioned to blot out a lot of our natural ability because society has deemed it either 'evil' or not in line with scientific research.

Yes, magnetic sort of lines, some real technical stuff there eh. I don't proclaim to know everything about it, far from it. But I seem to be giving more information than it seems most either know, or are willing to post.

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-please stop referring to electromagnetism, its not your freind, it doesnt give you internal or ethereal power. it is the science of magnetic flux which is generated by electronic flow. magnetic flux will only affect you if your within the flux density of a conductor of high AC voltage with an abnormally large cycle (in Hz). AND even then, all is does is cause each electron of every atom in your body to line up and then dissaray at the speed of the Hz, which will do nothing except seriously **** with your shit over time or cause u to cook like u were in a microwave.

-yes exactly there are 'loads' of those points, hundreds, same as with chi and its dim mak pressure points, or acupuncture. almost seems like they started off thinking there were a few main meridians slowly discovered there was a complex network in fact. considering the total lack of concrete anatomical knowledge of our cardiovascular system in those times of chi's origin its strikingly obvious they were substituting their version of what we know as the vascular system. We can see this in old 'pressure point' arts, what seemed to be mystical transfers of energy to certain points... we now know are actaully strikes to arteries which cause a rush or shortage of blood to an area, lets say the head, and thus causing them to faint.

-first of all, in Genesis the bible also says "Thou shall not lie with a woman as thou lies with a man for it is an abomination"... are u a homophobe? do u take the bible literally? In any case, this was not my point... my point is simply that just because a belief system is old, does not make it true... in fact its the contrary, ancient civilizations were practically totally in the dark compared to what we know today, they do not have mystical knowledge just because they existed before industry, this is a HUGE but unfortunately common fallacy.

-again with your magnetic lines, if you understood the physics behind what your trying to convey you would realize your contradicting your theory of the existence of chi

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Old 03-29-2008, 02:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Chi does exist. It basically means life force energy (as far as I'm aware). Whether it can be used in combat, I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me. Many cultures have believed for thousands of years that there is an energy system in & around the body. There are 7 main points running from the groin to the crown of your head (google 'chakra' system). Each are interlinked and are developed at different stages of your life. This energy is believed to extend outwards in magnetic sort of loops, that can be focused on specific things, given the correct training. It's also believed work on this system & each chakra point can effect your well being & character. With this in mind, if it can be used to heal, then I'd imagine it could be used to damage. From what I've heard though, to use it against someone in a negative fashion also serves to harm the self.

I await all the neg reps lol.
No negative reps from me on this one.
Au contraire;this sounds like what I was referring to.
My next question though:
what traditionally,did someone do to develop and train this force?
Do you have to do Tai Chi or bakua,or are there exercises that anyone can do?
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No negative reps from me on this one.
Au contraire;this sounds like what I was referring to.
My next question though:
what traditionally,did someone do to develop and train this force?
Do you have to do Tai Chi or bakua,or are there exercises that anyone can do?
yea i did tai chi and qi gong, chi is cultivated in the 'soft' martial arts and expressed in the 'hard' martial arts.you will find chi masters who claim to be able to injure an opponent by shooting chi from their fingers, or someone claim that their 'kiai' can down an opponent on its own. great emphasis is put on balance to attain a stable chi, for isntance in training balancing makiwara strikes and practising focused katas. well thats all how they explain it, in actually its a load of crap.

ps. if chi generated magnetic flux then chi masters would be able to stick magnets to themselves right?
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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yea i did tai chi and qi gong, chi is cultivated in the 'soft' martial arts and expressed in the 'hard' martial arts.you will find chi masters who claim to be able to injure an opponent by shooting chi from their fingers, or someone claim that their 'kiai' can down an opponent on its own. great emphasis is put on balance to attain a stable chi, for isntance in training balancing makiwara strikes and practising focused katas. well thats all how they explain it, in actually its a load of crap.

ps. if chi generated magnetic flux then chi masters would be able to stick magnets to themselves right?
I've just read what you posted & it seems you've as tendancy to talk in a manner the majority wont have a clue what you're on about. This makes you look smart but really doesn't give us any details of what you mean. I'm currently smashed out my head here so will reply to your complex post when I'm 'better dressed'. It seems you have looked into this more than you'd like to let on. Why not just give us a post on what the results of your proposed experiences have given you, rather than trying to make a fool of people that are giving information regarding their own experiences.
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I've just read what you posted & it seems you've as tendancy to talk in a manner the majority wont have a clue what you're on about. This makes you look smart but really doesn't give us any details of what you mean. I'm currently smashed out my head here so will reply to your complex post when I'm 'better dressed'. It seems you have looked into this more than you'd like to let on. Why not just give us a post on what the results of your proposed experiences have given you, rather than trying to make a fool of people that are giving information regarding their own experiences.
if i make people look a fool its because they have brought forth any factual material
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No negative reps from me on this one.
Au contraire;this sounds like what I was referring to.
My next question though:
what traditionally,did someone do to develop and train this force?
Do you have to do Tai Chi or bakua,or are there exercises that anyone can do?
Sorry mate, the technical dude had me on a mission & I missed your post. I've suffered from depression for most of my life. I'd heard meditation could pick me up so, in a last resort kinda of thing i did that. After maybe 18 months or so, of doing this when I'd came out of it feeling loads better, I said to a mate for a laugh more than anything that I'd send her some happy vibes when i was meditating.

I could describe the whole experience but basically I visualised my hands over her head, & moved them down slowly over her body. When I got to her stomach my hands started burning up, which ******* freaked me out, but i kept at it. I visualised my hands going down onto her legs & as soon as her lower torso stopped the mad tingly burning stopped.....
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...... I freaked out so thought, ok I'll go back up, see what happens. On moving back up the same mad tingly burnging feeling started exactly where it had left off before. This as you could imagine freaked me right out. My brain was all over the place. I asked her the next time I spoke to her if it made sense & it turned out she had cervical cancer & irritabal bowel syndrome due to the stress from the cancer.
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this proves chi exists, all hail chi
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Anyway, since then I've carried on sending those positive vibes, & have learned how to supposedly protect myself from receiving the negative shit. As I've said, I'm no exprert & far from it, I just now that what I do seems to work & I've had so many positive feedback that it's more than just coincidence. If people would like to think it's absolute bollox then so be it, I've done all this shit with a completely sceptical mind & have had shit loads of legit comeback. I really couldnt give 2 shiney shites about your technical shenanigans. I've told shit loads of people where their illness are & after doing what I have done on these people, they some have miraculous recoveries.
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