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Old 03-29-2008, 10:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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yo this guy is phucking jesus, why dont you get you own TV show man.... PLEASE BITCH
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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this proves chi exists, all hail chi
As I said, I'll reply to your earlier confusing post when I'm sober & can appreciate what you're on about.
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yo this guy is phucking jesus, why dont you get you own TV show man.... PLEASE BITCH
Nothing like resorting to name calling. For your information, my brother calls me jesus, for the same reasons you just did. It makes no difference to me. Like I said earlier in the thread, we are all given shit that we're brought up to stifle. It's up to us to practice & let the ability flourish.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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yes very good, you make a claim of have supernatural healing powers and defend it with an uplifting cliche. whatever you need to believe man, arguing this is like arguing religion
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
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-please stop referring to electromagnetism, its not your freind, it doesnt give you internal or ethereal power. it is the science of magnetic flux which is generated by electronic flow. magnetic flux will only affect you if your within the flux density of a conductor of high AC voltage with an abnormally large cycle (in Hz). AND even then, all is does is cause each electron of every atom in your body to line up and then dissaray at the speed of the Hz, which will do nothing except seriously **** with your shit over time or cause u to cook like u were in a microwave.

-yes exactly there are 'loads' of those points, hundreds, same as with chi and its dim mak pressure points, or acupuncture. almost seems like they started off thinking there were a few main meridians slowly discovered there was a complex network in fact. considering the total lack of concrete anatomical knowledge of our cardiovascular system in those times of chi's origin its strikingly obvious they were substituting their version of what we know as the vascular system. We can see this in old 'pressure point' arts, what seemed to be mystical transfers of energy to certain points... we now know are actaully strikes to arteries which cause a rush or shortage of blood to an area, lets say the head, and thus causing them to faint.

-first of all, in Genesis the bible also says "Thou shall not lie with a woman as thou lies with a man for it is an abomination"... are u a homophobe? do u take the bible literally? In any case, this was not my point... my point is simply that just because a belief system is old, does not make it true... in fact its the contrary, ancient civilizations were practically totally in the dark compared to what we know today, they do not have mystical knowledge just because they existed before industry, this is a HUGE but unfortunately common fallacy.

-again with your magnetic lines, if you understood the physics behind what your trying to convey you would realize your contradicting your theory of the existence of chi

-There is no cow level
What a random post. Firstly, all your references to science regarding such a topic are pretty futile. Scientists are consistently finding out that they know nothing. Do you know that it's considered there are 11 dimensions rather than the older model of 3? Explain those if you're such a knowledgable guy.

You're post regarding the bible is worrying. I mentioned Jesus because you brought up that he claimed he was the son of God. I replied to say that what is actually stated that he said, implied we're all the offspring of God, not only he had access to these miraculous powers. Either way, you stated yourself that what civilisation considers to be solid facts may not be the case at all. Bolstering the previous paragraph.

About the magnetic lines. Explain why it contradicts the theory of chi, or better still give us a quick run down on quantum gravity.

The no cow level comment shows your confidence in science only shows your ignorance to what has actually been worked on.

Lastly, while not religious, I do have plenty of beliefs. All stemming from being totally skeptical but with an open mind. The meditation was what opened my mind to this stuff, so for you to claim you've studied all this stuff then proclaim it to be crap. I tell you, you know nothing.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Anyway, since then I've carried on sending those positive vibes, & have learned how to supposedly protect myself from receiving the negative shit. As I've said, I'm no exprert & far from it, I just now that what I do seems to work & I've had so many positive feedback that it's more than just coincidence. If people would like to think it's absolute bollox then so be it, I've done all this shit with a completely sceptical mind & have had shit loads of legit comeback. I really couldnt give 2 shiney shites about your technical shenanigans. I've told shit loads of people where their illness are & after doing what I have done on these people, they some have miraculous recoveries.
First of all, I am not into putting people down, or putting down what somebody is into. I have noticed in this forum that so many times, whenever somebody posts something, they start off by knocking traditional martial arts, or knocking how something is done in one system or another.I realize that this point alone should be the crux of a separate thread that I am thinking of starting,but for now, to preview that idea to the extent that it is relevant here,I would point out that all of the TMA masters say,"If you perform a technique, and it doesn't work, then you simply haven't mastered that technique." What I think that we would all agree IS bull is this business you see where someone promises you that if you buy a certain video or a certain DVD or a certain tape or a certain book, then in ten minutes, you will learn secrets that will make you invincible.Comedian Bill Cosby had a truly hilarious skit about that once;I still laugh when I think about it.
Nothing you can study in ten minutes, in fact, nothing you can study in your entire lifetime will make you 100% invincible, able to defeat anyone anywhere under any circumstances.
but you can acquire skills, and some of them take awhile to develop.
That said,
Basically, I have some questions that I specifically want to direct to you, and a possible response:
1.How did you develop and/or maintain this ability?
Did this come strictly from "meditating?" What are you calling "meditating?"What exactly did you do? Did you focus your eyes on a candle? Or chant a mantra? Or what? What exactly did you do? I,too, profess to have an open mind.
2.Did this solve the problem of your depression?If not,you know what I have found helps with that is some kind of artistic expression:Take up guitar or piano.
Or do what my buddy did after his divorce:
He just gots some paints and some boards and did Jackson Pollock kinds of things, just flinging paint at the boards.
It pretty much eliminated his depression.
And he ended up with some pretty neat artwork to hang on his wall.
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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.......Basically, I have some questions that I specifically want to direct to you, and a possible response:
1.How did you develop and/or maintain this ability?
Did this come strictly from "meditating?" What are you calling "meditating?"What exactly did you do? Did you focus your eyes on a candle? Or chant a mantra? Or what? What exactly did you do? I,too, profess to have an open mind.
I basically started off with lying flat on my bed trying to empty my mind. This is practically impossible to start with so I done that coupled with focusing on my breathing. Through time you get better at it, & it seemes natural that when you're that relaxed, you're breathing gets more shallow, until a point where very little inhalation is necessary (if at all it seems ).
After I'd accidentally discovered the ability to pick up on others illness (see previous posts on how it began) I looked further into it. I had considered healing & meditating as the same thing before, which I found out is a totally seperate act. I now do both at seperate times & with the healing, you could maybe say, refining the method. Reading up on it & picking out the stuff that makes sense to me. The sensations I get now (depending on the extent healing is needed) are as distinctive as your leg going numb if you've sat on it for too long.
To send healing energy I don't actually need to do that much. I basically just focus on the person & if necessary focus on the specific point. It may sound weird but it basically does it itself as long as I'm focused on it. The more I actually try to send it the less it goes. Like I said though, I've sort of refined it a bit but it's really difficult to put into words.
The meditating can be a lot more intense now since I've been doing it for so long, translike states etc. Not advisable for the faint hearted & if you're going to give this a try, make sure you're either, not giving a shit about the outcome, or know what you're doing. Over the years I've met several people who have gave me advice & things to look out for, books to read etc. But everyone has a different perspective on life, so I like to make up my own mind on what I believe to be true.
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2.Did this solve the problem of your depression?If not,you know what I have found helps with that is some kind of artistic expression:Take up guitar or piano.
Or do what my buddy did after his divorce:
He just gots some paints and some boards and did Jackson Pollock kinds of things, just flinging paint at the boards.
It pretty much eliminated his depression.
And he ended up with some pretty neat artwork to hang on his wall.
respectfully,
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I still do suffer quite badly at times but the spiritual stuff does give me an uplift. All be it maybe a temporary one but it does help. I've got beliefs that most would think crazy, but I'm pretty sure would erradicate the depression (think living like a monk). They're just way to damn difficult in our current society, or I'm not that far advanced, would be more to the point.

The instrument idea sounds good though, probably worth a shot. Thanks for the heads up.

BTW I've been doing it for about 9 years now, with varying degree's of interest.
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Old 03-31-2008, 04:05 PM   #38 (permalink)
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What a random post. Firstly, all your references to science regarding such a topic are pretty futile. Scientists are consistently finding out that they know nothing. Do you know that it's considered there are 11 dimensions rather than the older model of 3? Explain those if you're such a knowledgable guy.

You're post regarding the bible is worrying. I mentioned Jesus because you brought up that he claimed he was the son of God. I replied to say that what is actually stated that he said, implied we're all the offspring of God, not only he had access to these miraculous powers. Either way, you stated yourself that what civilisation considers to be solid facts may not be the case at all. Bolstering the previous paragraph.

About the magnetic lines. Explain why it contradicts the theory of chi, or better still give us a quick run down on quantum gravity.

The no cow level comment shows your confidence in science only shows your ignorance to what has actually been worked on.

Lastly, while not religious, I do have plenty of beliefs. All stemming from being totally skeptical but with an open mind. The meditation was what opened my mind to this stuff, so for you to claim you've studied all this stuff then proclaim it to be crap. I tell you, you know nothing.
Science is basically a collection of data that we have observed to be true by our senses. The science is not wrong because it is based on principles which the vast majority of people agree to. Science has been wrong in the past but at least it is built on things we can test are true instead of something completely made-up. Being wrong is necessary to discover what is right.
BUT, the scientific knowledge i referred to was on in opposition to chi being made up of 'electromagnetic forces'. and only that.
As for 11 dimensions, yes theres many different theories about a multi-dimensional universe... i prefer to believe there are an infinite number of dimensions. P.S. there are 4 dimensions that we live in, x,y,z axis and time.

dont let my views on the bible worry you, in actually i really like the bible, its full of great fairytales, like the qu-ran and the torah. but i dont believe in a god. thats wierd stuff. dont make this about religion.
quantum physics are too ****ed up for u. heres something fun for you to put your thinkin cap on. if you drop a tennis ball and a baseball from a theater balcony, which will hit the ground first?
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Science is basically a collection of data that we have observed to be true by our senses. The science is not wrong because it is based on principles which the vast majority of people agree to. Science has been wrong in the past but at least it is built on things we can test are true instead of something completely made-up. Being wrong is necessary to discover what is right.
BUT, the scientific knowledge i referred to was on in opposition to chi being made up of 'electromagnetic forces'. and only that.
As for 11 dimensions, yes theres many different theories about a multi-dimensional universe... i prefer to believe there are an infinite number of dimensions. P.S. there are 4 dimensions that we live in, x,y,z axis and time.

dont let my views on the bible worry you, in actually i really like the bible, its full of great fairytales, like the qu-ran and the torah. but i dont believe in a god. thats wierd stuff. dont make this about religion.
quantum physics are too ****ed up for u. heres something fun for you to put your thinkin cap on. if you drop a tennis ball and a baseball from a theater balcony, which will hit the ground first?
Neither, both hit at the same time. Assuming they both have the same drag coefficient (I'm not up to speed on the dimensions of a baseball). You sidestepped the quantum gravity question quite nicely though, deflecting a question back at me. Answering a question with a question. Are you a politician? It seems, my friend, that quantum physics is too ****ed up for you. Either way, it's irrelevant how much you proclaim to know. I, at least admit I know very little. Most of your top physicists admit to this too. It's a shame people like yourself who put so much faith in it don't follow by their example.
I'm not making this about religion either. It was you that brought the bible up. I just said different cultures have believed that a life force energy existed for thousands of years, which is true.

Just in case you're going to come back with a dite on quantum physics. I asked about quantum gravity remember.
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Neither, both hit at the same time. Assuming they both have the same drag coefficient (I'm not up to speed on the dimensions of a baseball). You sidestepped the quantum gravity question quite nicely though, deflecting a question back at me. Answering a question with a question. Are you a politician? It seems, my friend, that quantum physics is too ****ed up for you. Either way, it's irrelevant how much you proclaim to know. I, at least admit I know very little. Most of your top physicists admit to this too. It's a shame people like yourself who put so much faith in it don't follow by their example.
I'm not making this about religion either. It was you that brought the bible up. I just said different cultures have believed that a life force energy existed for thousands of years, which is true.

Just in case you're going to come back with a dite on quantum physics. I asked about quantum gravity remember.
I guess i overestimated you, my bad but still, its funny you answered my question... it was a mock question man, i figured youd be offended by it actually and have more dignity than to answer to it.
lol, well what exactly dont you understand about quantum gravity, ill probably be able to give u some answers.

I like how you castigated me for acting as if i knew the absolute truth... and then you end with "which is true". there is no absolute truth so we must assume things based on what we have observe and conceive.
im sayin just because people have believed some form of this stuff for thousands of years proves nothing, ad numerum argumentum - many people believing in something does not make it true... testing theories, defining our environment systematically is truly credible
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