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Old 03-29-2008, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What about the back fist strike?

Jabs, hooks, and uppercuts seem to get all the glory, but what about the back fist strike?
It would seem to me to be almost the perfect counterpunch weapon,considering such variables as how you might be positioned with respect to an opponent, etc.
My question:Can the backfist punch(or strike) also be an effective knock-out technique?
Yes or no?
And why?
Has anyone in MMA or Ultimate Fighting, etc. ever been knocked out by means of this technique?
If so, then:
Who? and When?
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just a regular backfist isn't really that powerful so won't really produce KO's. It also leaves you open when you throw it. Now the spinning back fist has worked (Carter vs. Serra) but again it leaves you open and is hard to land.
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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spinning backfist can be devastating if you land it properly....but it's really hard and like mls said it leaves you open....you kind of need a really unorthodox style to make it effective...look up genki sudo...he used it all the time in k-1...even in strings of 3-4 spinning backfists in a row
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Old 03-29-2008, 03:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, I would never rely on a back fist or even a spinning back fist ending a fight. A spinning back fist can cause a lot of damage if landed flush, but if you miss, you could very well find yourself in a world of trouble. Also, because you lose sight of your opponent for that split second, the chances of you not connecting are greatly increased.

I remember Henderson used it against Wanderlei Silva. It didn't knock him out, but it sure rocked him.
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it is good surprising weapon , if u go like left hook SBF
for a surprising attack , or if u missed roundhouse
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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more of a stun punch that is thrown in the middle of a combo while you get ready for another punch
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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techniques like hammer fists and backfists arent knock out techniques. They are strikes that stun your oponent or throw them off to give you the oppertunity to finish. You use them much in the way as a skip/superman punch. If you get into a routine in a fight and the other guys starting to get a rhythm together you can use it as a way to throw him off his game and maybe stun him to give you an oppertunity to finish. The back fist in and of itself wont be enough to finish but will give you the oppertunity to do so.

Another technique thats like this that works well is the spining back kick and spining hook kick. They mix it up a bit and catch your oponent off guard but they both have the power to end a fight
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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techniques like hammer fists and backfists arent knock out techniques. They are strikes that stun your oponent or throw them off to give you the oppertunity to finish. You use them much in the way as a skip/superman punch. If you get into a routine in a fight and the other guys starting to get a rhythm together you can use it as a way to throw him off his game and maybe stun him to give you an oppertunity to finish. The back fist in and of itself wont be enough to finish but will give you the oppertunity to do so.

Another technique thats like this that works well is the spining back kick and spining hook kick. They mix it up a bit and catch your oponent off guard but they both have the power to end a fight
What is the "superman punch?" What does it involve, and how is it executed?
Also, to the other gentleman:How does a backfist strike leave you open? Open for what or to what kind of response from your opponent?
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What is the "superman punch?" What does it involve, and how is it executed?
It's what Irvin dropped Alexander with last night in about five seconds.
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What is the "superman punch?" What does it involve, and how is it executed?
Also, to the other gentleman:How does a backfist strike leave you open? Open for what or to what kind of response from your opponent?
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Superman punch (see last night's UFN with Alexander v. Irvin) is when you lift a leg as if to throw a kick, and instead throw a punch.

When you throw a spinning backfist, you're turning your back to the guy even if it is just a split second. It leaves you open for anything since you can't react to anything he's throwing at you while you're looking away.

The spinning backfist isn't much of a knockout punch because it's hard to target (even shonie's KO of serra was forearm). Generally it's a good reply to a low leg kick if the guy is dropping the hand on the same side as he's throwing the kick from (i.e. - the drops his right hand when he throws a right roundhouse, so when you spin to you're right it looks like you're just absorbing the roundhouse with your hamstring when you're really throwing a counter).
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