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Old 04-03-2008, 02:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hahaha screw boxing. I love my kicks. I have faught some pretty pathedic dudes, like closed eye, leaned back swing for the fences types. Best way to end it, IMO, nice cut kick right to the leg. I did this one to the big guy (230 lbs). Stupid juicer, he went ape shit on me, threw the madest hooks. I ducked sleped back, loaded up a cut kick, and down he went, you shoulda seen this dude, it was hilarious. Another one that has worked for me in the past are straight kicks right on the knee if you can.

If you can time your kicks right (execially if you do karate) use them...its hilarious...some guys will get mad, cuz theyre not expecting it...who cares. Also, as a fighter you should just totaly avoid fighting non fighters...its just emberrasing. ahaha
Ive fought a few guys out on the street. Ive learned not to talk about training when your out in public because guys will try and start shit with you. One time we were at a freinds house and it was a UFC party. They were showing heath hering vs nog. One of the guys was like yeah all you need is that one big bomb and saying if you just rush in and fight it doesnt matter you will win.

I said look man if you fight any one who's half way polytechnic he will pick you apart if you fight like that. If you brawl its a see what happens type deal. You cant control the outcome its who ever gets a good shot first.

Hes like what the hell do you know and I made the mistake of saying I train I actually know how to fight. I should have said your right man or not have talked to him. He then called me out and I didn't want to fight and then he started shoving. I let my pride get the best of me and we took it outside. He went in to rush and swarm like he said he would and i circled and he just kept running after me and I just kept circling. Then I picked an angle and as he rushed in I threw a round house to the body and he ran right into him and folded him.

He got back up and by now was pretty tired. I didnt want to hurt him just prove a point and I kicked him in the leg and as most trained people it was the most paintful thing in the world for him. I hit him again there and he was in alot of pain.

I asked him if he wanted to keep going and he said no. I went to walk away and the ****er wanted to rush me from behind. So he took me down and mounted me and was trying to throw haymakers from the mount and I quickly reversed him and since he didnt know how to pull guard I mounted him.

Got him in an arm triangle put him to sleep and said ok we need to leave before this guy wakes up.

Moral of the story is if you train you really have no business fighting untrained guys. Any guy whos been in a decent gym for 6 months can pick apart a normal guy it just isnt fair. With the training and knowledge there comes a degree of responsibility. I dont fight in the street any more and never will again. Most of the time in life its better to just let it go especially if its some one your never going to see again
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've gotten into my share of brawls against untrained fighters and I always notice this. Keep up a good stance and move from side to side at times, so if they rush at you, they have a good chance of missing.

Also, do not be afraid to use wrestling or better yet the CLINCH. To a semi-trained person they know the clinch is devastating, but to a complete stranger to martial arts, when you lock in that clinch they start thinking "what the hell?"

Always keep your cool and try to use technique instead of purely using random swings. Combos wouldn't hurt a damn bit either...
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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People who aren't trained usually throw 1 of two kinds of punches these huge slow haymakers which are easy as hell to avoid/dodge or they throw straight punches.

I prefer the untrained power puncher personally, they throw you dodge and counter. Not to mention untrained guys usually keep their hands low. Im talking devastating over-hand rights that should never land go clean on these guys.

Sit back take your time and throw combos. Don't be afraid to take it to the ground, someone with little experience wont know how to survive a side-mount with 5,000 hammerfists.

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Ive fought a few guys out on the street. Ive learned not to talk about training when your out in public because guys will try and start shit with you. One time we were at a freinds house and it was a UFC party. They were showing heath hering vs nog. One of the guys was like yeah all you need is that one big bomb and saying if you just rush in and fight it doesnt matter you will win.

I said look man if you fight any one who's half way polytechnic he will pick you apart if you fight like that. If you brawl its a see what happens type deal. You cant control the outcome its who ever gets a good shot first.

Hes like what the hell do you know and I made the mistake of saying I train I actually know how to fight. I should have said your right man or not have talked to him. He then called me out and I didn't want to fight and then he started shoving. I let my pride get the best of me and we took it outside. He went in to rush and swarm like he said he would and i circled and he just kept running after me and I just kept circling. Then I picked an angle and as he rushed in I threw a round house to the body and he ran right into him and folded him.

He got back up and by now was pretty tired. I didnt want to hurt him just prove a point and I kicked him in the leg and as most trained people it was the most paintful thing in the world for him. I hit him again there and he was in alot of pain.

I asked him if he wanted to keep going and he said no. I went to walk away and the ****er wanted to rush me from behind. So he took me down and mounted me and was trying to throw haymakers from the mount and I quickly reversed him and since he didnt know how to pull guard I mounted him.

Got him in an arm triangle put him to sleep and said ok we need to leave before this guy wakes up.

Moral of the story is if you train you really have no business fighting untrained guys. Any guy whos been in a decent gym for 6 months can pick apart a normal guy it just isnt fair. With the training and knowledge there comes a degree of responsibility. I dont fight in the street any more and never will again. Most of the time in life its better to just let it go especially if its some one your never going to see again
Wow, you have got be the most forgiving guy I know. You handled the situation admirably. I will at all costs avoid a fight. Someone cheap shots me or jumps on me when my back is turned, I collect their ******* teeth.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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People who aren't trained usually throw 1 of two kinds of punches these huge slow haymakers which are easy as hell to avoid/dodge or they throw straight punches.

I prefer the untrained power puncher personally, they throw you dodge and counter. Not to mention untrained guys usually keep their hands low. Im talking devastating over-hand rights that should never land go clean on these guys.

Sit back take your time and throw combos. Don't be afraid to take it to the ground, someone with little experience wont know how to survive a side-mount with 5,000 hammerfists.



Wow, you have got be the most forgiving guy I know. You handled the situation admirably. I will at all costs avoid a fight. Someone cheap shots me or jumps on me when my back is turned, I collect their ******* teeth.
I honestly didnt want to get into it that night. I dont like fighting untrained people I try to keep it in the gym. Ive seen a lot of people get hurt just to prove a point. You hear all these stories of these pro fighters and good fighters taking on the local thug and then they end up getting hurt or dieing because he came back with a gun or some friends.

The advice I usually give every one is if you fight some one you need to get the hell out of there so you don't get into any legal trouble and so it doesn't bite you in the but later. Any one who is dumb enough to randomly start shit is the same type of person who is going to try and hurt you later
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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In my personal experience I've found that fighting guys like this can seem very intimidating at first. The first thing that comes to mind is "what if I get his by just one of those haymakers?!!". There was a guy at a kung fu class I went to that enjoyed sparring with me. He was a textbook version of what the OP is talking about I would think. He was about 10kg's heavier than me and would just rush in throwing lefts and rights to no end.

At first its pretty difficult, but after about just a minute or so you really get used to it...literally. Those punches are so easy to see coming, block and slip, and, my favourite, especially easy to counter with a couple of straights. Chances are, your opponent won't even think about moving back at an angle making it just that much easier. Throw in a few kicks and you'll have him where you want him.

I think the best thing one can do against such people, is not get overconfident. Those punches may be crap, but it only takes one to put you on your ass, so be careful anyway. Remember what you've trained and stay calm. Simple as that.
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A light jab will stop them in motion because they'll instanly think shit, I just got punched, then you fire the straight right down the middle.
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My favirote thing to do is when the person throws.. Lets say a 1-2 combo, 1 big wide hooks. Duck under, get behind him, get a good take down put them in a nice tight RNC. And through them choking they'll start saying things like " You *gargle gargle* *****!" and shit like that and next thing they know, night night. Or, clinch them up knee away, they have no idea how to defend in the clinch. Just take them down. They have no idea how to throw a punch there not going to know how to pass gaurd or do anything like that.
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if you have ever boxed you would know that with latteral movement and keeping the jab in his face will beat most anyone that is new to the ring.
doing heavy bag workouts w/combos is cool, but that all changes when you are fighting. then timing, foot work, and the ability to dig within are taken into account.
just because someone throws wild punches does not necessarily mean you will be able to beat him. i belive after 15 seconds in a street fight it is the guy with the bigger heart will win.

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I have limited fight training, a little karate and a little boxing, but I train a few times a week on my own; mainly heavy bag work with punching/kicking combo's. Anyway, I feel that my fighting skills are probably better than 90%+ of NON-fighters, and I think I could hold my own against ;most people with limited or no training. However, I've always wondered, how do you go about fighting someone that goes all out ape $hit wild charging in and throwing haymakers left and right? You can't really box someone like this, so what do you do?
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you have create angles when your fighting a guy who doesntknow how to fight
theyre coming in on a rush just make angles and keep himout with your jab
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