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Muay Thai offers more "weapons" per say. I train in both and blend the two together the best I can.
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Muay Thai offers more "weapons" per say. I train in both and blend the two together the best I can.
Since you train both, what are the advantages with western style kickboxing compared to muay thai?
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The thing kickboxing helps me with really is fighting from the outside, which someone mentioned. Also their is more of an emphasis on the head kick in western kickboxing as low kicks aren't allowed. Take note that I study a more European style (Dutch).

Since the rules are so much different between the two it's not really fair to compare them. If you took a Muay Thai fighter and put him in a western kickboxing match he would lose most of his weapons and advantages. Where as if you took a kickboxer and put him in a muay thai match he would be overwelmed with the strikes that are allowed.
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Kickboxing = Punches and kicks above waist.

MT = Punches, kicks, elbows, knees + strikes below waist are allowed.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

Kickboxing is good if you want to kickbox, MT is good if you want to fight MT.

For MMA, I'd say MT is better. For self defense, I'd say MT is better.

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uh....crocop is kinda a dutch style muay thai...and your still way off on everything else too
No sir he is a pretty straight forward kick boxer, and its kinda obvious but don't take my word for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirko_Filipovi%C4%87

And what am I "way off on". I've trained in kick-boxing for years and ive seen and taken some MT lessons.



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Muay Thai is more effective. Since it allows for more techniques than kick boxing PLUS all the techniques from kickboxing it's logically more effective or equally effective.

Also, Cro Cop is a Muay Thai fighter in the aspect that he uses low kicks and clinch + knees. It's just that K1 doesn't allow elbows, and only one knee from the clinch and then you have to let go, so it's not very Thai-ish.

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Muay Thai is more effective. Since it allows for more techniques than kick boxing PLUS all the techniques from kickboxing it's logically more effective or equally effective.

Also, Cro Cop is a Muay Thai fighter in the aspect that he uses low kicks and clinch + knees. It's just that K1 doesn't allow elbows, and only one knee from the clinch and then you have to let go, so it's not very Thai-ish.
I suppose thats true. I have used the clinch with knees before as well. So I guess in that in only one single specific aspect I am also a Muay Thai fighter although Ive only had 3 training sessions and ive trained kick-boxing for years.

Seriously he is a kick-boxer.



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sorry xeberus if no one told you wiki is a shit hole source....

again...kick boxing is a sport and not a style

Types of kick boxing include,
karate (several styles)
muay thai (several styles)
san shou (several styles)
tae kwon do
savate
then traditional k1 style

types of muay thai...traditional (kinda like kung fu) combat or sport style (thai land competition version, used in famed lampini stadium) dutch and european style. basic forms of muay thai, crocop is a european style muay thai practitioner sorry hes shown as a kick boxer by wiki, thats cuz he faught in k1. thai people use their legs more, europeans (and americans) took western boxing and added thai kicks, most of them arent as good at kicking though and are more stiff using less hip (crocop)

i dont know a whole lot about karate styles or tkd, generally more point based, and less strikes to the legs.
savate is cool but much less powerful than thai. and french
sanshou is a weaker traditionally weaker than thai in striking, but now alot of people use thai, boxing, and judo in san shou.
traditional sport thai allows knees and elbows, also you have to wear certain things and they play drums during the fight.
K1 is filled with muay thai fighters but doesnt allow elbows, k1 is kinda the standard for kick boxing events. most rules are based off theirs and most places dont allow knees and elbows because their more dangerous.

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Kickboxing is just a generalized name, it's only been used for like the last 50 years or something like that.
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