body shots sparring - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
Standup Technique MMA Standup fighting techniques.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 14
 
body shots sparring

hey we did sparring yesterday in mma. I did body shots because i just joined and they want to take it easy on me. But i have been training at home and took karate for 3 months. So yeah i got some experience of course not as good as the guys that been there for like 2 years. so the rules were you can kick to legs and body, punch to body, and no face shots, no front kicks only roundhouse and i think maybe side kicks.

my question is how do you fight when just doing body shots cuz the guy had his hands down blocking his body and face open. It was really hard to get in and throw some punches i mostly did leg kicks but decide to go for a rib kick and hit his elbow with my foot and hurts like a bitch now.

thanks
kzpl15 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Featherweight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,461
                     
Do you joined a mma class or a kyokushinkai class? Because no face shots is kyo. No gloves also?

FightingIsBelieving

Nichts reimt sich auf Uschi!
Nothing rhymes on Uschi!

Wer ist hier noch Deutscher ausser mir?
Uchaaa is offline  
post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 14
 
its mma the reason no face shots was because im new there been only there for like a week an a half.
kzpl15 is offline  
post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 09:08 PM
Lightweight
 
Fieos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,730
                     
Training only body shots (even if you are new) teaches bad habits like keeping your hands low. My first recommendation would be to find a new gym. My second recommendation would be to throw on the head gear, mouthpiece, the big gloves, and ask that they pull their shots a bit since you are new.
Fieos is offline  
post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 09:52 PM
Flyweight
 
The Crusher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 347
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fieos View Post
Training only body shots (even if you are new) teaches bad habits like keeping your hands low. My first recommendation would be to find a new gym. My second recommendation would be to throw on the head gear, mouthpiece, the big gloves, and ask that they pull their shots a bit since you are new.
Agreed!
The Crusher is offline  
post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-03-2009, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 14
 
i agree to cuz i keep my hands up while the other guy has then down and that reallly pisses me off cuz im taking it serious like in a fight and i cant hit him any where but yeah its the best gym around here that i can find everything else i looked at is to far away. And i have the habit of keeping my hands up which some what exposes my body and i hate doing body shots but thats only when the instructer is there im gonna start sparring more with the guys that go there. their all nice and helpfull. i signed up for over the summer so ill see how it goes.
kzpl15 is offline  
post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-11-2009, 01:40 AM
The Forum Drunk
 
xeberus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,450
                     
I would not spar with no face shots, its puts you in a very bad way should you ever have to fight. Even when I spar I never throw hands to the body, just kicks. I find it way to easy to counter with hooks while im circling out.



If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. ~ Thomas Jefferson


Sig by D.P.



xeberus is offline  
post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-11-2009, 01:51 AM
The Forum Drunk
 
xeberus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,450
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fieos View Post
Training only body shots (even if you are new) teaches bad habits like keeping your hands low. My first recommendation would be to find a new gym. My second recommendation would be to throw on the head gear, mouthpiece, the big gloves, and ask that they pull their shots a bit since you are new.
sorry double post

Fieos! you are a badass, i agree. if i would have seen your post originally i would have saved myself the time of posting in this thread.

/repped



If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. ~ Thomas Jefferson


Sig by D.P.



xeberus is offline  
post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Outta My Head
 
Onganju's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Paramount, CA
Posts: 1,220
Blog Entries: 11
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fieos View Post
Training only body shots (even if you are new) teaches bad habits like keeping your hands low. My first recommendation would be to find a new gym. My second recommendation would be to throw on the head gear, mouthpiece, the big gloves, and ask that they pull their shots a bit since you are new.
That isn't entirely true, and I think that's a bit premature to tell someone to up and leave right off the bat. I know you're thinking that any practices remotely sounding like they are associated with a TMA equates to "McDojo crap" but that isn't always the case.

Now if all they did was that, sure. But since he's new, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Just because he and his opponent are only going to the body doesn't mean that he can't concentrate on good form. Isolation sparring and drills are meant to teach good form, not just winging to wing it.

I'm pretty sure the TS will end up getting punched in the head pleanty enough times to learn how to cover up and defend with due time. He already indicated that he likes the place and that the other guys are willing to help. That goes a lot farther than having a bunch of meatheads trying to jock their nutsacks on his chin and just blasting him to the dome without an appropriate assessment of his abilities. That applies doubly so regarding that he has some sort of training.

It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree... As long as I don't bore you and I spark a moment of thought, my goal is achieved.

Queng leon queng tigre ecu tacacut, queca pa? - Pampangan Mandarigma Motto

My Blog <--READ IT!
Onganju is offline  
post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Lightweight
 
Fieos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,730
                     
I'll agree on the point that it may be premature for him to pursue another gym. However the most basic and fundamental striking is that you keep your hands up and there should be no exceptions to this rule. Your fighting/competing is a reflection of your training and I'm entirely unsympathetic to counter-productive training methods no matter how well intentioned.

My views are based of years of traditional martial arts; I'm not dismissing the merits of that kind of training and I feel that traditional martial arts teach discipline in ways MMA gyms may not be able to replicate. My chosen avatar reflects my view of the McDojos that have dilluted the tradional arts to the point that I spend an absurd amount of time on this forum defending the viability of Taekwondo in MMA competition because so many of the posters have experience in these buy-a-belt schools and have only experienced a bastardized version of the art. I've spent years as a Taekwondo instructor trying to get martial artist to keep their damn hands up because they joined a Taekwondo school where punching to the head was not allowed! There are literally a million+ Taekwondo students who train 3X a week to keep their hands mid-chest. They are a KO buffet for any competent striker in the world, trained or not. Worse these people are instilled with a false sense of confidence that could potentially put them them in more danger than if they had no formal training at all.

I have a personal zero tolerance policy for people training with their hands down. If the original poster wants to continue with that gym I would at least make the recommendation that the question is asked about concerns of counter-productive training and that it is a very, very short term training method. One thing a lot of 'MMA' and 'TMA' schools do is get cheaper insurance rates by being a 'no' or 'minimal' contact school. Some policies explicitly restrict punching to the the head or demand higher premiums. No school wants to advertise that they teach a dilluted version of an art, especially with MMA so mainstream. If he is potentially at one of these gyms he should find out early and determine if he is training for viability or just for some cardio.
Fieos is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome