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So here's the deal. I'm not new entirely to MMA. I started amateur boxing about 2 years ago and started amateur MMA this year (six months ago).

I do not have the money for a gym (shitty hours at work, low pay). I have been working with a heavy bag, punch mitts, as well as a sparring partner on a decently regular basis. I plan on starting Shotokan, self-taught, through a PDF file containing most of the basic katas I downloaded off the intenet.

NOTICE: I do not have any illusions that this is going to be effective enough to work a my principle sparring art, however I aim only to develop a base from which to build when I get enough money for a gym.

So, I would definitely like constructive critizism as well as any nuggets of wisdom the veterans have. Thanks in advance.
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So here's the deal. I'm not new entirely to MMA. I started amateur boxing about 2 years ago and started amateur MMA this year (six months ago).

I do not have the money for a gym (shitty hours at work, low pay). I have been working with a heavy bag, punch mitts, as well as a sparring partner on a decently regular basis. I plan on starting Shotokan, self-taught, through a PDF file containing most of the basic katas I downloaded off the intenet.

NOTICE: I do not have any illusions that this is going to be effective enough to work a my principle sparring art, however I aim only to develop a base from which to build when I get enough money for a gym.

So, I would definitely like constructive critizism as well as any nuggets of wisdom the veterans have. Thanks in advance.
So whats your question?

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That line about the critisizm about the plan, and advice in general...maybe
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Working from your computer by all means is acceptable. But there is one major flaw, you don't have a teacher to tell you what you doing wrong, so if your doing something wrong but you think it is right then you will learn the wrong thing.

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I am not really a fan of the "true martial arts" like karate and whatnot as they relate to mma. Too much theory as opposed to realistic application.

My 2 cents. Boxing is awesome for standup. Stay with it. Find a site that has detailed submission wrestling and Muay Thai videos. (PM me and I'll send you a link) Like Intermission said, you can only go so far without a coach to point out the finer points and you will probably have to unlearn a few bad habits, but it is a starting point. .

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I am not really a fan of the "true martial arts" like karate and whatnot as they relate to mma. Too much theory as opposed to realistic application.

My 2 cents. Boxing is awesome for standup. Stay with it. Find a site that has detailed submission wrestling and Muay Thai videos. (PM me and I'll send you a link) Like Intermission said, you can only go so far without a coach to point out the finer points and you will probably have to unlearn a few bad habits, but it is a starting point. .

Good Luck
Yeah, I recognize any traditional martial art would need some, possibly significant alteration for sport use. But I love karate, always have and feel its the right route to take. But I understand where your coming from with the boxing and Muay Thai.

Also, since I forgot to multi-quote, thanks to Intermission for his advice as well, I agree that I will possibly do things incorrectly and continue to do so ignorantly.
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If you have the extra money, I would invest in a grappling dummy so you can try and get the basic techniques of the submissions down. Gotta have a ground game to go with that standup for sure!


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I am still a rookie fighter myself, i just started this past march and only have 1 fight under my belt. I also train at home the majority of the time due to lack of hrs @ work. What i try to do is make it to one MMA class at my gym, Mansfield MMA only charges $10, and i try to pay VERY close attention to the small details of how my coach does what we are learning. then at home i do just that one thing until i feel i can do it to perfection. Then i save up the funds and go bk to a class take coach aside and show him the techniuqe, and listen to his instruction.

Good luck to you in your mma career. hope my advice helps.
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So here's the deal. I'm not new entirely to MMA. I started amateur boxing about 2 years ago and started amateur MMA this year (six months ago).

I do not have the money for a gym (shitty hours at work, low pay). I have been working with a heavy bag, punch mitts, as well as a sparring partner on a decently regular basis. I plan on starting Shotokan, self-taught, through a PDF file containing most of the basic katas I downloaded off the intenet.

NOTICE: I do not have any illusions that this is going to be effective enough to work a my principle sparring art, however I aim only to develop a base from which to build when I get enough money for a gym.

So, I would definitely like constructive critizism as well as any nuggets of wisdom the veterans have. Thanks in advance.
I didn't notice any mention of brazilian ju jitsu,judo or sambo even if you are not interested about submissions, they're good to learn because you will be taken down eventually and at least you'll be able to counter the submission attempts of opponents,/ be able to get back to your feet where you can use your boxing to start smashing heads again.
A good standup fighter with good takedown defence is Chuck Lidell,.
For submissions used well in mma see Shinya Aoki, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Demian Maia,Bj Penn, Jake Shields, "Jacare", Paulo Filho, and any of the Gracie Family.
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I didn't notice any mention of brazilian ju jitsu,judo or sambo even if you are not interested about submissions, they're good to learn because you will be taken down eventually and at least you'll be able to counter the submission attempts of opponents,/ be able to get back to your feet where you can use your boxing to start smashing heads again.
A good standup fighter with good takedown defence is Chuck Lidell,.
For submissions used well in mma see Shinya Aoki, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Demian Maia,Bj Penn, Jake Shields, "Jacare", Paulo Filho, and any of the Gracie Family.
How exactly do you roll and learn subs without a teacher?



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