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traf_quake 01-17-2007 05:57 PM

fighting a giant...need help
 
i know this isnt really mma related but i need to know how to fight a big guy on the street...i'd say hes about 6'4 maybe 250....i'm lik 5'7 and 165 lol...this guy wont let up and i'm thinking i might get dragged into something...

i've been doing mma for a few months now and in sparring sessions when i spar with bigger guys i always have the problem of not committing to the punch when i get in close because they're soo much bigger than me...i have pretty fast hands and ok defense but if i get hounded by this guy on the street i dont know how i'd deal with it...my sensai says to just ignore him but its no that easy

if anyone can give me any pointers so that i dont get reamed it'd be great lol

wingnutt 01-18-2007 09:47 AM

I too am in a simalar situation. My debut fight may be against a bigger guy. I stand 5'6", 145lbs and he's about
5'10", 180-200lbs. This would be his first fight as well, and I've been training for a few months now. The fight is in 2 months so any advice would be appreciated for taking down these giants.

kishiro 01-18-2007 11:46 AM

traf_quake my advice to you is continue training, focus on grappling, most big guys are really not to good at throwing punches, due to them using all arms. taking fights to the ground most people are not familiar with. i suggest if you stand stand in side of his punches, take it down, and choke or go for a lock, most people could with stand punches better than getting choked while winded.

wingnutt your out of your weight class a bit i would say... but if it is your plan, i noticed with bigger guys i can get leg locks easily, or turtle giving my back and let them get the arms set for the rear naked choke, but slap the feet until they cross and figure four their ankles forcing them to tap...

The Don 01-18-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by traf_quake
i know this isnt really mma related but i need to know how to fight a big guy on the street...i'd say hes about 6'4 maybe 250....i'm lik 5'7 and 165 lol...this guy wont let up and i'm thinking i might get dragged into something...

i've been doing mma for a few months now and in sparring sessions when i spar with bigger guys i always have the problem of not committing to the punch when i get in close because they're soo much bigger than me...i have pretty fast hands and ok defense but if i get hounded by this guy on the street i dont know how i'd deal with it...my sensai says to just ignore him but its no that easy

if anyone can give me any pointers so that i dont get reamed it'd be great lol

Size does not alway matter. though most big guys may have a real problem fighting smaller guys ints not always true. I am 6'2" and about 250lbs. now if you were fighting me.. THe advice you were given above would not work. EVERY person is different you can not train to handle little guys or big guys or whatever. YOu were told to try and grapple him. that may be great but what if he is a black belt in JuJitsu regardless which style. or if you try to trade punches, he could be a golden glove winner in boxing. or have a black belt in some other martial art. not saying it is hopeless... no fight ever is. my advice to you is to train hard and listen to your sensei. If at all possible avoid the fight. The highest for of martial arts is to fight with out fighting, To paraphrase Bruce Lee a little. If possible travel with a friend or two who you know will have your back. Most bullies will not fight you if you have a friend or two they are going to have to fight as well. change your travel routes so he does not know where your going to be and when.
Do what you can to prolong the fight for as long as possible or until he just gets bored and looks else where. But if it does happen. don't hold back. Hit hard, kick hard, Bite hard. Squeeze the dudes balls if you have to.. Remeber this is a street fight, not a sanctioned competition. This person wants to hurt you. hurt them to the point they won't ever want to hurt you again. Make them think twice about wanting to bully anyone else and remeber THIS IS A STREET FIGHT THERE ARE NO RULES. YOUR ONLY GOAL IS TO SURVIVE. But above all avoid it if you can. Even if it means running away. WHich could be a good tactic. Lots of big guys do not like running and are not good sprinters.. you might be able to wind him and if you can loose him turn and attack fast.. and don't let him catch his breath. but because he could run marathons for fun.

Basicly over all.. just train hard try to avoid the fight.. but be prepared if it ever does happen, just don't go looking for it. THat just makes you a bully too..

The Don 01-18-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wingnutt
I too am in a simalar situation. My debut fight may be against a bigger guy. I stand 5'6", 145lbs and he's about
5'10", 180-200lbs. This would be his first fight as well, and I've been training for a few months now. The fight is in 2 months so any advice would be appreciated for taking down these giants.

If this is a sanctioned fight in a competition there is no reason you two should be competitng completely different weight classes. If its not then well think of it as good practice. Do what you can to watch his training with out your being watched.. Scout him out.. talk to people he trains with . YOur big advantage will be this. Most bigger guys think they have an advantage over smaller guys. It can breed a bit of laziness and he may underestimate you.. I say focus on your stregths don't try to set up for any one move you may not get the chance just compete hard and if you lose in your case hey. Its competition not someone trying to bash your head in. Learn from it and in the future stick to your weight class unless its just training.

Calibretto9 01-18-2007 02:05 PM

Dude, avoid fighting if at all possible, but if something goes down remember: It's a street fight. You do whatever the hell you have to do to put him down. Don't stand up and trade punches with him. His reach combined with his weight means you're going to get smacked hard and probably won't hurt him too bad. Avoid it, but if you can, kick his nuts, claw him in the face, do whatever you have to do to survive.

It's all about intensity man. If that cat attacks you and realizes he's attacking a maniac, he'll back off. But the best thing you can do is just avoid it.

cabby 01-18-2007 02:12 PM

slip the jab if ur gonna swing, head movement is also key. on a big guy u need to be on the inside cause trading is harder with them especially if they can box a bit. my advice: get on the inside and go to the body and if u land something good then takedown

traf_quake 01-18-2007 05:03 PM

hey guys thanks for all the advice...ya i've been avoiding the guy a lot...and the advice for the takedown is good...i was thinking that myself because he's soo big and not really fast...plus i''m sure the only fighting he's ever done would be on the streets....just wondering what the right way to go with that would be...i wouldnt wanna shoot then end up not being able to take him down cuz hes too heavy

kishiro 01-18-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by traf_quake
hey guys thanks for all the advice...ya i've been avoiding the guy a lot...and the advice for the takedown is good...i was thinking that myself because he's soo big and not really fast...plus i''m sure the only fighting he's ever done would be on the streets....just wondering what the right way to go with that would be...i wouldnt wanna shoot then end up not being able to take him down cuz hes too heavy

throw a few get in for a clinch (NOT A THAI CLINCH... a chest to chest, with double under hooks), then small outside or inside reaps or hooks. if that does not work you are not in bad position, because you'll still have clinch. if that does not work, i would then go for a thai clinch squat down holding clinch looking straight forward pull down on thai clinch and spring straight up into his chin or nose. if you miss your still not in bad position with a tight thai clinch..

i work on a lot of cross grips to belt grips, stepping around outside of opponents power arm and keeping control of his hand. this leaves me in a very good position. standing to the side of a bent over off balance opponent, or i can end up standing behind him with both arms around his waist. either way i feel very comfortable this way... oh but if your behind with a waist grip put your cheek to his spine(lot of guys throw elbows).

but if you do go for a shot, against bigger guys i tend to not really do it but, if i must i will go for a single. i place my foot between his, with my knee of the same side i touch it to the ground past his feet same side arm and shoulder twist to the outside catching the crook of his knee to the crook of my shooting arm to trap(KEEP YOUR CHEEK TO HIS BODY or you will get choked)i then take my drag foot and plant it to the outside of his leg i have trapped, shift all my direction and posture to the other side, and drive his weight over his planted foot.

traf_quake 01-20-2007 02:54 PM

does anyone know any mma fights that could be useful to me??? i 've seen the cro cop vs. bob sapp one...but are they're any others in my situation


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