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Old 07-26-2010, 07:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Something I've noticed in MMA is that roundhouse kicks - whether they're karate or muay thai - seem alot more effective than straight kicks like side kicks and front kicks etc.
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Something I've noticed in MMA is that roundhouse kicks - whether they're karate or muay thai - seem alot more effective than straight kicks like side kicks and front kicks etc.
I think this has more to do with that the kicks are designed for and the individual fighter's style.

That is to say the round kick is extremely damaging, there are very few kicks I would consider more able to damage the body (spinning back kick, and spinning heel hook being the only ones). While the front thrust/snap as well as the side kick are designed to control range and set up other strikes whether they be rotational kicks or punches.

There really aren't many fighters who use a stick and move strategy with their feet, and thus don't put much effort into, and use less often, the linear kicks. I try to use kicks for this purpose and have found that while they're not nearly as powerful as a round kick, they are much more surgical in my opinion.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So far in my training I have hit 43-seconds for 25 roundhouse-strikes as a set.

Would it be possible for the brain to function quicker than 1.5 seconds enough to the point to throw the same amount in a 36-second period of time?

I know end the end if you can throw more out there, there will be a greater chance of damage.

But how fast is too fast?
The brain can process this information far faster than the rest of your neuromuscular system. When you're talking about the brain your typically using millisecond intervals as opposed to second intervals.

The rest of your body has to be able to handle the pace, which means your neuromuscular system has to be prepared and conditioned. You must train a lot to have effective neural pathways between the brain, spinal cord, and neurmuscular junctions, etc, to increase the speed.

There would obviously be a limit placed on you by the simple physics of the action, however the limitations would almost definitely not be placed upon you by the brain.

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Not exactly what you're asking about, but it shows what can be done.
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As simple as this sounds.......repetition, your training your muscles and body to move faster. The way I was taught to increase strikes is simply by increasing by one per day, same overall increment of time.....say 45 secs. I may be capable of between 45- 60 strikes, set the bar at 45 and increase by one per day, part of it is muscle memory...
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I know this is a tough question, but what sort of time-span would it take to accomplish what you are talking about coldcall420?
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honestly unless you are just out to impress someone with how quick you can throw a kick, a kick only has to be slightly faster then your opponent and since you can cover it with another offensive action like a Jab it's not the most important thing in the world to be super fast with your kicks. I am not saying don't train to improve your speed, just that it isn't going to be the only contributing factor to how you perform.
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honestly unless you are just out to impress someone with how quick you can throw a kick, a kick only has to be slightly faster then your opponent and since you can cover it with another offensive action like a Jab it's not the most important thing in the world to be super fast with your kicks. I am not saying don't train to improve your speed, just that it isn't going to be the only contributing factor to how you perform.
You know that its an endurance exercise right? Throwing X number of kicks in 30 seconds isn't to look flashy, its to develop fast twitch nerve conduction, balance, and muscular endurance. And since those are ALL of the factors contributing to effective execution of a roundhouse kick, I'd say it significantlly effects performance...
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You know that its an endurance exercise right? Throwing X number of kicks in 30 seconds isn't to look flashy, its to develop fast twitch nerve conduction, balance, and muscular endurance. And since those are ALL of the factors contributing to effective execution of a roundhouse kick, I'd say it significantlly effects performance...
well if you'll look at the way his initial post is phrased, to me it seems like he's asking about how to improve the speed of his kick I took that to mean he as talking about a single execution like trying to beat his opponents defence via pure speed. if that isn't what he meant then I guess I missunderstood, but the overall point I was making stands as valid
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well if you'll look at the way his initial post is phrased, to me it seems like he's asking about how to improve the speed of his kick I took that to mean he as talking about a single execution like trying to beat his opponents defence via pure speed. if that isn't what he meant then I guess I missunderstood, but the overall point I was making stands as valid
Yeah its valid if he meant how to throw a kick super fast against his opponent without a set up, or timing. But as you said it needs to just be faster than his opponent's defenses. The exercise that was explained is the exact way to achieve it. The only thing better (IMO) is resistance training.
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Yeah its valid if he meant how to throw a kick super fast against his opponent without a set up, or timing. But as you said it needs to just be faster than his opponent's defenses. The exercise that was explained is the exact way to achieve it. The only thing better (IMO) is resistance training.
Yah, I wasn't saying that the exercise wasn't important, I guess I phrased my responce wrong but my basic point was not to only rely on one thing, speed, to getyou past the opponents defences. Use all your options, Fients, Set Ups, Angles etc to score. My overall point being to make connecting with the attack the point of your training, not just how fast you can kick.
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