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Yeah, chain punching is more of a training aid to develop fast-twitch nerve conduction, endurance, and coordination (similar to the concept a speed bag) rather than an actual hand-to-hand tactic.
Usually Wing Chun practicioners claim chain punches to be their main weapon in hand-to-hand tactic. In the World's largest Wing Chun organisation, the EWTO, they call it the "universal solution". I have yet to see them used in an actual fight though.
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Usually Wing Chun practicioners claim chain punches to be their main weapon in hand-to-hand tactic. In the World's largest Wing Chun organisation, the EWTO, they call it the "universal solution". I have yet to see them used in an actual fight though.
yeah i read the same thing. It may confuse your opponent at best but if they know what they are doing then that method will not work.

By all means il try it in sparring and let you know though...if im not concussed.

Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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yeah i read the same thing. It may confuse your opponent at best but if they know what they are doing then that method will not work.
There are situations when it works. I sometimes use them to help me to seperate myself from my opponent, but then switch back to normal striking.

I also use the vertical fist sometimes. As it's slimmer and goes in a real straight line from my center towards the target it has better chances to slip trough the opponent's guard. But because of the lesser power it has it's rather a set up to make openings for other shots like hooks.

As for Wing Chun, the closet to fighting you will find is probably this:

And those guys also often tend to abandon the pure Wing Chun techniques for caveman boxing which in the end looks like lesser skilled MMA.

This is how it looks when two Wing Chun master fight:
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the second vid just looked like 2 guys in a bar fight. Not impressive. Shame really.

Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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the second vid just looked like 2 guys in a bar fight. Not impressive. Shame really.
The even bigger shame is how they tried to exploit that fight and sell it as a showcase of their superior style and technique during the EWTO's massive propaganda war against other organisations and styles:

Cheung was something like 50 years old at that time, while Boztepe in his mid-20s.
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2 things really p*** me off about that.
1) the fact that they say everything he is doin i a special technique, when its clearly just strong arming an old man.
and 2) They slowed it down so it didnt just look like, what it was, a shamefull brawl.

Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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Usually Wing Chun practicioners claim chain punches to be their main weapon in hand-to-hand tactic. In the World's largest Wing Chun organisation, the EWTO, they call it the "universal solution". I have yet to see them used in an actual fight though.
Yeah, as an actual combat strategy its kind of...stupid. But I was refering to its usefulness as a training aid with regards to MMA.


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Sadly you see this kind of horrible fighting a lot. Guys who use a Martial Art, right up until they have to use it, and then they completely de-legitimize the Art in the eyes of its sceptics by simply existing.

The episode of Fight Quest where they profiled Wing Chun was one of the few times I've see decently good full contact Wing Chun competition, as shady looking as the whole thing did look not withstanding.



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Yeah, as an actual combat strategy its kind of...stupid.
I wouldn't even call it stupid in general. As I said, it works in specific situations, but you have to know when. It certainly doesn't work as a "universal solution" as they claim. Chain punches could be a useful counter to defend a forward rushing brawler as his center line is completely open, but you have to know when it's time to stop chain punching and switch to power punching as the time frame for effective chain punching is quite short.

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I wouldn't even call it stupid in general. As I said, it works in specific situations, but you have to know when. It certainly doesn't work as a "universal solution" as they claim. Chain punches could be a useful counter to defend a forward rushing brawler as his center line is completely open, but you have to know when it's time to stop chain punching and switch to power punching as the time frame for effective chain punching is quite short.
I'll stick with the double jab in actual hand-to-hand combat.



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I'll stick with the double jab in actual hand-to-hand combat.
Double jab is a fine tool. I wouldn't use chain punches in a situation where I usually use the jab.

Wing Chun as a whole art is misunderstood in my eyes, because most people think fighting=fighting, which is not the case. Circumstances of a fight situation determine the tools you need in the specific fight. Wing Chun is not a fighting art to showcase that you are the stronger fighter like MMA. It's not designed to stay in the fight, but as a defensive art to get away from a threat. So it has more legitimation as a women's self defense as it was originally developped for that purpose.
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