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post #21 of 28 (permalink) Old 04-28-2007, 02:57 PM
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Good job on getting the pics up. I am not sure about the second dead lift your posing, I cant see the benefit of it. Check out Trey B's post about the Sumo dead lift, I use it often along with a traditional mixed grip dead lift.

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kk here they are...
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I could have had my butt down further on this one, Hard without weights, and this is my friends house.


and the next one, I heard this is a way you could do it...
Not really sure what that 2nd picture is but I personally wouldn't suggest it. However, you can use that same grip while doing deadlifts, it comes in handy especially when you start throwing up large amounts of weight. It's kind of hard to tell if your form is good from the picture though since youre not actually doing the excercise.
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Alright,

Nice to see some photos finally posted. I'll do you one better at the end of this post, and post the "Sumo" stance being utililized by yours truly.

In the first photo, I notice your arms are fairly long, so you may want to give a try to the "Sumo" form that I explained in an earlier post. Plus, from the somewhat conventional stance your in...it looks like your shoulders are past the bar, and that's a no-no.

Yeah...give the Sumo stance a shot. You begin the stance your your feet pointed to the sides a bit, not straight...but yours are already like that, so good. Next, spread your feet far enough apart from each other, so that your shins meet the end of your nuerling (jagged part of bar where your hands are - you want your shins all the way over to the ends on each leg respectively).

Next, on your descent...like I said shoulders back. At ALL COSTS! A good thing to do to keep form good, is tilt your head up, so you're looking right at a point on the ceiling. Then, begin to go down. Chest out!

Once your hands meet iron, set your grip. The grip in your first photo = bad. You want the over / under bro. The grip you have in your second photo....yeah....that one (without that leg over the bar crap...but the grip is good).

Once you begin to bring that bar up, keep it AS CLOSE to your legs AS POSSIBLE. I mean so close, that when you do the lift properly...it will cut up your shins and upper leg (don't worry...cuts scab & scabs fade with time ). Once you get into heavier weight amounts, that's when you'll see people put baby powder on their legs, cause then the bar slides right up.

If you don't already have them, invest in a good pair of wrestling shoes. They are flat on the bottom, so you'll be able to establish a better base for your lift, then you will with everyday tennis shoes.

Get yourself a strong, thick weight belt as well. Will save your lower lumbar from lots of pain, and possible injury.

About the second photo...I don't know what the hell you're doing - but don't EVER use that form with weights on the bar. You're just begging for an injury (ex: hernia, bulging disc). Only time you might want to use that, is for stretching purposes ONLY! No weight on the bar though! Easy way to tear your quad....and you don't want that.

Here's me with 490 lbs. on the bar (lifting in the 148 lb. class):



As you can see...the stuff I'm telling you is not BS. I use it all myself. Sumo stance (even though the photo was at the peak of the lift), over / under grip, wrestling shoes, double-ply weight belt, baby powder on legs for easier lift / bar as close to legs as possible (you'll notice the cuts on my left leg - right when you're looking at the photo)...all that man. It works - so just give it a shot.

Let me know if you need anymore help bud.

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Nice pull man! Very impressive
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The look on the dudes faces in the background is priceless
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Wow, where did you learn that, whos growth has it stunted that started at a young age? Shaq... no, Arnold Schwartenegar...no, and Im already short. Also alot of the 15 year olds at my school have started at like 13 and are buff bigtime. In fighting condition besides the real training no doubt. Just I need opinions on how much you think I should, at my stats, be able to deadlift, its as simple as that.
what is there to stunt lol, hes 5 1. he aint growing much anyway.
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Thanks Trey that helps alot, yeah I didnt think that second one was a good idea but I heard you could so I thought I would ask. And I use a belt at school when I do it all the time, and I try not to alot at my house. Oh and sorry I havent posted in a while, I was on a dirt bike and I slammed the back brake b/c the guy in front of me stopped to fast, anyway I did it on gravel and I was in 3rd gear, lol it was not a good day, oh well thanks for the help guys I will make sure to use the stuff you told me, Ill post some more pics while I actually do it, hopefully soon.

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Alright,

Nice to see some photos finally posted. I'll do you one better at the end of this post, and post the "Sumo" stance being utililized by yours truly.

In the first photo, I notice your arms are fairly long, so you may want to give a try to the "Sumo" form that I explained in an earlier post. Plus, from the somewhat conventional stance your in...it looks like your shoulders are past the bar, and that's a no-no.

Yeah...give the Sumo stance a shot. You begin the stance your your feet pointed to the sides a bit, not straight...but yours are already like that, so good. Next, spread your feet far enough apart from each other, so that your shins meet the end of your nuerling (jagged part of bar where your hands are - you want your shins all the way over to the ends on each leg respectively).

Next, on your descent...like I said shoulders back. At ALL COSTS! A good thing to do to keep form good, is tilt your head up, so you're looking right at a point on the ceiling. Then, begin to go down. Chest out!

Once your hands meet iron, set your grip. The grip in your first photo = bad. You want the over / under bro. The grip you have in your second photo....yeah....that one (without that leg over the bar crap...but the grip is good).

Once you begin to bring that bar up, keep it AS CLOSE to your legs AS POSSIBLE. I mean so close, that when you do the lift properly...it will cut up your shins and upper leg (don't worry...cuts scab & scabs fade with time ). Once you get into heavier weight amounts, that's when you'll see people put baby powder on their legs, cause then the bar slides right up.

If you don't already have them, invest in a good pair of wrestling shoes. They are flat on the bottom, so you'll be able to establish a better base for your lift, then you will with everyday tennis shoes.

Get yourself a strong, thick weight belt as well. Will save your lower lumbar from lots of pain, and possible injury.

About the second photo...I don't know what the hell you're doing - but don't EVER use that form with weights on the bar. You're just begging for an injury (ex: hernia, bulging disc). Only time you might want to use that, is for stretching purposes ONLY! No weight on the bar though! Easy way to tear your quad....and you don't want that.

Here's me with 490 lbs. on the bar (lifting in the 148 lb. class):



As you can see...the stuff I'm telling you is not BS. I use it all myself. Sumo stance (even though the photo was at the peak of the lift), over / under grip, wrestling shoes, double-ply weight belt, baby powder on legs for easier lift / bar as close to legs as possible (you'll notice the cuts on my left leg - right when you're looking at the photo)...all that man. It works - so just give it a shot.

Let me know if you need anymore help bud.
lol looks like yur gonna have an anurism(SP?)

but thats awesome dude i couldnt do that
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