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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-15-2009, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Thats basically physically impossible unless you are a big fat guy who is also pretty weak. I doubt you are either.

Gaining strength = caloric surplus, little to no cardio
Getting cut/lean/whatever = claoric deficit and an assload of cardio.

Trying to do both at the same time is counterproductuve.

ahh okay that makes sense. but now im wondering why many people do cardio and lift. such as someone who goes on a run in the morning before breakfast then lifts at the gym later. how does this work if it is counterproductive?
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Who does that with success?

You can't gain significant strength while losing weight unless you are
1) Completely new to training and fat
2)On steroids
3)Some sort of ridiculous genetic freak who can gain strength on a caloric deficit.

You can maintain strength or cardio/BW while increasing the other, but thats about it.
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Who does that with success?

You can't gain significant strength while losing weight unless you are
1) Completely new to training and fat
2)On steroids
3)Some sort of ridiculous genetic freak who can gain strength on a caloric deficit.

You can maintain strength or cardio/BW while increasing the other, but thats about it.

thanks for clearing that up for me. so if i wanted to lose some body fat first, then work on my strength, would it be beneficial to still lift while im losing the body fat so that i maintain my current strength?
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Yes definitely. I would say you should cut down to a couple days of lifting a week focusing on your main lifts at a relatively moderate intensity and volume if you want to focus on losing weight and concentrate on cardio and eating clean.
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thanks for clearing that up for me. so if i wanted to lose some body fat first, then work on my strength, would it be beneficial to still lift while im losing the body fat so that i maintain my current strength?
Go look up the Anabolic Diet, it's basically taking in around 5000 calories day, but burning more than that as well, so your muscles are fueled, but you are also burning fat.
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