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post #31 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-08-2010, 11:10 AM
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Kettlebells come in a bunch of different weights. GSP snatches 100 lb of kettlebells, for example.

The way they're used isn't like dumbbells, for the most part.


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That's hardly 'weight training'. I havent seen him using light dumbbells, but kettlebells are not really that heavy.
In fact, the man himself says that weights are not necessary for MMA. He lifted while he was in the army and got very strong and he said that they were not necessary after that.
Body weight is not weight training in my opinion, as i'm sure it is in many others.
Dude are you dumb that means he did weight training.He did plenty of weight training he is good now he doesn't have to do it.the regular exercises maintain his strength.It is better to get a good strength base atleast before if not while you're doing mma.But of course it is not necessary neither is being good at it but you want to right?
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Dude are you dumb that means he did weight training.He did plenty of weight training he is good now he doesn't have to do it.the regular exercises maintain his strength.It is better to get a good strength base atleast before if not while you're doing mma.But of course it is not necessary neither is being good at it but you want to right?
No. I'm not dumb. Are you? He weight trained ten years ago! That's not the same as weight training as a mixed martial artist. If he was consistent with the heavy weight training he did, then you could make the argument that weight's are a big part of his game. But they are not.
Strength is important of course, but Fedor remains strong and he doesn't weight train like he used to.
There is the counter-argument. Are weights necessary while training as a mixed martial artist?
In fact, there is a long list of mixed martial artists who don't train with weights, and perhaps an even longer list of those who do so incorrectly, training like bodybuilders for example.
Look at Anderson Silva, you think he has ever benched or squatted high numbers?
Talent is much more important than weight training.
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It all depends on time. If you want to build enough muscle in your arms, chest, core legs and back for a fight in three months, weight train. If youre talking about building significant amounts of fighting muscle over the long term repition and stances work just fine.

I have a friend who's learning Freestyle Mantis Form kung fu and his sei-fu has never once done a benchpress in his 40 odd years. He holds stances and punches and kicks over and over and the complexity of motion in kung fu helps build muscle since you have to use them in awkward positions many times.

But if you want lots of effective flashy muscle right now. Weight lifting is your only option. But the muscle won't be nearly as powerful and dense as if it came over the long term.
That may in fact be the most inaccurate post ever put onto this forum. Muscle gained "over time" is not different than muscle gained by a proper nutritional and weight lifting routine (ie, more quickly). The only reason someone would not gain muscle mass quickly is because they either are exercising incorrectly, not enough, and/or their nutrition is off.
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That may in fact be the most inaccurate post ever put onto this forum. Muscle gained "over time" is not different than muscle gained by a proper nutritional and weight lifting routine (ie, more quickly). The only reason someone would not gain muscle mass quickly is because they either are exercising incorrectly, not enough, and/or their nutrition is off.
This is indeed true. Muscle is muscle.
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That may in fact be the most inaccurate post ever put onto this forum. Muscle gained "over time" is not different than muscle gained by a proper nutritional and weight lifting routine (ie, more quickly). The only reason someone would not gain muscle mass quickly is because they either are exercising incorrectly, not enough, and/or their nutrition is off.
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This is indeed true. Muscle is muscle.
So you two are saying that all muscle is the same. That flashy muscle, that which hugely desiel gym rats carry around, is equal in strength and endurance to the leaner, denser muscle obtained over a lifetime?



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