Are Weights a Must? - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
Strength & Power Training Discussion of strength training as part of your MMA conditioning program.

Reply

Old 08-29-2009, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
MMA fighter
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The land of the bumblebee
Posts: 155
lazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura about
Are Weights a Must?

I have come accross a few different opinions to weight training.

Even in my club there is a bit of a devide when it comes to this.
There are 3 groups of people.

1. Weight training is a must to gain strength in mma.
2. BW excersises are all you need and cardio.
3. You dont need to do weights at all.

No personaly I enjoy doing weight training even though I dnt train weights as extensivly as i once did.

But I put the question to you.
Weights or no weights or somewhere in between?
__________________
Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
lazyfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 09-01-2009, 07:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
MMA fighter
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The land of the bumblebee
Posts: 155
lazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura about
oh well people must be sick of me lol
__________________
Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
lazyfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2009, 09:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St.Louis
Posts: 46
gsx_r can only hope to improve
There's no such thing as a must.

However if you wanted to get stronger what would be the fastest way? Lifting weights....
gsx_r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2009, 03:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
MMA fighter
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The land of the bumblebee
Posts: 155
lazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura about
very true i agree with you but some people may not. A few people at my gym dont bother with weights anymore and stick to bw excersises.
__________________
Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
lazyfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2009, 09:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
Curitiba Food and Liquor
 
swpthleg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 16,167
Blog Entries: 14
swpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings Systemswpthleg Is Beyond A Rankings System
FWIW, there's a school of thought amongst some extremely old school martial arts instructors that frowns upon weight training.

I lift 2-3x a week, but I do a lot of other stuff that conditions and tones muscle over time, like pad and bag work.
__________________

Sig Credit to Toxic
swpthleg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 622
BazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the roughBazDaManUk is a jewel in the rough
I think core exercises and improving the strength of muscles that you will require i.e. hips when your on your back etc. is required if you want to have a bit of an advantage. At the very least you want to be able to be competitive and not get muscled around.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana White
He didn’t just poke Al-Turk; he poked me, too
LMAO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana White
Bruce Lee is the father of MMA
BazDaManUk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 10:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
MMA fighter
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The land of the bumblebee
Posts: 155
lazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura about
yeah i agree....weight training can give you a good edge and helps you against people who are naturaly strong. But i think technique is deffinately better than strength but if you can get both then perfect.

I have noticed though that a lot of people who can lift really heavy weights in the gym dont feel as strong on the mats as you would think. Is there a reason for this?
__________________
Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
lazyfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 10:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 20
ShotgunFacelift has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyfighter View Post
yeah i agree....weight training can give you a good edge and helps you against people who are naturaly strong. But i think technique is deffinately better than strength but if you can get both then perfect.

I have noticed though that a lot of people who can lift really heavy weights in the gym dont feel as strong on the mats as you would think. Is there a reason for this?
I don't know if this relates at all, but there was a study about baseball players who use "donuts" to weight their bats down while on deck. They claim that the added weight makes them swing the bat faster once the donut is removed. The scientifical evidence showed that the added weight conditioned their muscles to swing that weight, and when swinging something lighter bat speed and contact power were greatly REDUCED. The muscles utilize the weight of the bat to gain momentum for power and speed. Take the weight away and the power/speed drops. I hope you guys understand that because I half confused myself writing it!

As I said, I have no idea if that relates at all, but it's a pretty logical thought.
__________________
YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUGG OUT!

"...I don't watch it (fights) with the commentators on. I watch it without, and with Nine Inch Nails playing. I think that's the key to watching fight footage." - Forrest Griffin
ShotgunFacelift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 05:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
MMA fighter
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The land of the bumblebee
Posts: 155
lazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura aboutlazyfighter has a spectacular aura about
yeah i think i get what you mean. dont know how it relates but it is certainly an ineresting point.
__________________
Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
lazyfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 05:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
attention's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 1,944
Blog Entries: 3
attention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By Allattention Is Beloved By All
Let me preface with this ...by no means am I an expert at anything related to fighting or training... so bear with me as I give my un-educated, completely speculative opinion.


if your intent is to swing a bat as fast and as hard as possible... then your brain has to trigger the correct muscles to maintain the bat at a particular level and contract at the appropriate time with maximum force.

When you put a weight on the bat, you brain is triggering different muscles to compensate for the increased 'downward' force to keep the bat level... this has little to no impact, IMHO, for increasing performance of swinging a non weighted bat... but could actually be detrimental since it changes the parameters the brain was initially considering with the weight off.

That said, I think weights and training have a symbiotic relationship... depending on your end goal.

IMHO, technique is the foundation to build on. Weight training supplements technique. Rarely do you find successful mma fighters that start off as power lifters (although some try their hand it it).

But obviously power comes into play when dealing with opponents that are as technically savy as yourself.

IMHO, weight training can help fine tune an mma fighter... give an edge when necessary... the caveat is to not be overly dependent on that factor. ie. expecting to simply be the stronger of the two.
attention is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios