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I don't think many of you realize that Shields and a few of the other Cesar Gracie camp have trained with Fitch and Koscheck. Those of you thinking he'd have no chance against either guy don't realize that he'd hold his own much more than some critics realize.
As a random aside...
Well, the UFC, even though Dana sometimes does business like he's drunk, needs to make exceptions. Allowing M-1 to have a hand in promoting Fedor in the UFC needs to happen, but won't happen and all of it is because of those "crazy" Russians.
The UFC makes a lot of stupid business decisions that hurt MMA fans, but it's only the hardcore fans that either A) know about how it hurts MMA, or B) understand that we're going to get screwed.
What happens to Dana's great UFC and it being "The Ultimate Proving ground" and on that ground Dana let the crazy Russians as you say who have been willing to negotiate bring in their TOP guy in Fedor and he proves that M-1's fighter was proven best in the Ultimate Proving ground?????
What happens is the UFC becomes a venue not the leader of the pack....dana would much rather never have fedor, than cross promote and while doing so have his fighter lose......
he learned that lesson when he took Chuck over to Pride and rampage whipped him then Pride woldnt continue to own up to their end of the contract.....
Think...remember the game Monopoly????
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UFC's brief cross-promotion with Pride was relatively low-risk, especially in 2003, as UFC was primarily a North American entity and Pride a Japanese one.
Strikeforce and Affliction, however, are in UFC's backyard. And while the folks who run those organizations talk a lot about how great WAMMA is, how multiple promotions are good for the sport and how cross-promotion would be better for the fans, I'm sure they would like nothing better than to be in the position UFC is.
If the shoe was on the other foot, do you think Atencio or Coker would be to give Dana White a rub? My guess is not very.
I havent had time to read any replies to this thread but just hearing Shields wants GSP made me laugh. What he gonna do? submit him? I think BJ needs to fight shields even at LW for BJ and WW for shields , I think Bj would take him. LOl I know that wont ever happen but id like to see it.
UFC's brief cross-promotion with Pride was relatively low-risk, especially in 2003, as UFC was primarily a North American entity and Pride a Japanese one.
Strikeforce and Affliction, however, are in UFC's backyard. And while the folks who run those organizations talk a lot about how great WAMMA is, how multiple promotions are good for the sport and how cross-promotion would be better for the fans, I'm sure they would like nothing better than to be in the position UFC is.
If the shoe was on the other foot, do you think Atencio or Coker would be to give Dana White a rub? My guess is not very.
I really wouldn't call that copromotion. PRIDE was at that times hands down the largest MMA promotion in the world. UFC sent their fighters to represent the promotion and I don't think PRIDE had a problem with it. Guys like Rulon Gardner fought only once in the promotion and that was all the MMA experience they got so I really don't see that as a copromotion!
I gotta disagree with you J.P. I believe GSP could take Shields down and control him, pass his guard and obliterate him with strikes or knees. GSP absolutly dominated Penn and Serra on the ground, didnt just control them and win but absolutly destroyed them, I think to believe he couldnt control Shields is ludicrous.
I think your completely right, id make a big wager with real money thats the way this fight would play out.
Well that maybe true but GSP had problems against Fitch and Kosh. He didn't finish them even though he controlled the entire match. If Shields were like that than as long as he wasn't finished he could possibly submit GSP!
I really wouldn't call that copromotion. PRIDE was at that times hands down the largest MMA promotion in the world. UFC sent their fighters to represent the promotion and I don't think PRIDE had a problem with it. Guys like Rulon Gardner fought only once in the promotion and that was all the MMA experience they got so I really don't see that as a copromotion!
True, Liddell and Ricco in UFC wasn't cross-promotion in the sense as the Pride-K1 stuff , for example. Which only furthers my point that the whole deal was a low-risk venture for UFC.
Allowing UFC fighters to take on Strikeforce fighters -- on American soil, no less -- would do very little to elevate UFC and very much to elevate Strikeforce. It would be foolish.
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Well that maybe true but GSP had problems against Fitch and Kosh. He didn't finish them even though he controlled the entire match. If Shields were like that than as long as he wasn't finished he could possibly submit GSP!
Well, if you call those problems, I guess Couture had problems with Sylvia and Fedor had problems with Nogueira.
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Well that maybe true but GSP had problems against Fitch and Kosh. He didn't finish them even though he controlled the entire match. If Shields were like that than as long as he wasn't finished he could possibly submit GSP!
There is always a possiblilty that Shield could submit GSP, its ludicrous to think that its impossible but its highly unlikely IMO.
Shields Wants GSP; Back In The Autumn
I think BJ needs to fight shields even at LW for BJ and WW for shields , I think Bj would take him. LOl I know that wont ever happen but id like to see it.
PRIDE/UFC Copromotion
GSP VS Fitch and Kosh
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